@unknownuser said:

... we're still getting lessons in maya and autocad, but when it comes down to it - everyone uses sketchup. Even (some of) the teachers are saying "well, ok the curriculum says you ought to make a maya model, but if you hand in a SU model, it's fine with us!"

. but then, you were looking specifically for Stills. So, use SU! And tell your classmate to go and animate things if he likes Max so much

ditto for mee pyro!!! but our teachers aren't so lenient but heck ...they don't know sketchup.... i gave some of my max rendering virtual architecture submissions in sketchup only..shhhhhh!!!

@tomot said:

Whats often overlooked is that AutoDesk spends a lot of money, training and getting Higher Institutions to use its products. This creates a revenue stream for them from the next generation of users. It works! trust me.

oh i see!!!....Now that's some insider information from a cool buddy!!! Yo man they are filthy rich...filthy rich people spend a lot on business strategies....the thing is they've bought 3dsmax from discreet and revit from some masachussets company...i don't know

thanks sir/madam!!!
was it because of my exams if i'm not wrong??

@simon le bon said:

"Come on" Arjun,

at least EEbRbF is not simple, and I guess TIG will make it evolute in time.

I see you very active in SCF, I guess you will not be a novice for long

*simon

yeah. .... i know..and video tutorials rock man!!! no can beat ever the video tutorials especially if it is something like extrude tools!!! take for example the sketchup basecamp seminar videos on youtube...!!! awesome x 10000000000.!!!! supercoool man....if anyone using sketchup hasn't seen them..i strongly recommend him/her to do so..

@tomot said:

Its obvious they have never used SU.

yahooo!!!1 that's the thingyyy man!!!! tottttallllly agree with you tomot

@unknownuser said:

Seems Blender can make the same than Max even more for 0 $
Blender is the SU of Max
In five years I bet that more people use Blender than Max!

what about sketchup dude?? are more people using sketchup than blender...?? i had a CGarchitect 2006 survey pdf file.. don't remember where it is.. the ratings were as follows..

1. max
2. AutoCad 3d ['cause people make 3d on autocad then import it into max] that's what our virtual architecture sir told us....
3. Sketchup 25% votes [that's all i remember]

but still I'm obsessed about sketchup it's really sexier than max...!!

@tomot said:

that SU will become part of that larger easy to use architectural package. That total package has NOT been achieved yet in Software. The thing standing in the way on the SU side, as I perceive it, there is too little knowledge by those in charge now, to carry forward that vision. In the mean time there are a HELL_OF_A_LOT_OF_BUGS to be fixed first, aren't they ?

This argument deals specifically with architecture and architectural visualization.We architects don't have to create an Avatar movie neither a game like NEED FOR SPEED. Yeah tomot there are a lot of bugs. But I disagree that SketchUp will become a part of that larger easy to use architectural package. SketchUp has already done that. I mean look at 1001bit tools. Man!! They are supercool .. Really BIM sorta thing. A better advantage of sketchup over 3ds max is that it's fast and easy to use. My creative thinking is hampered in AutoCAd 2d and max. We've been taught max here in my college of architecture and students were like..."Max sucks". My classmates literally dozed of in max class!!! Including me.I dozed off while attending the lecture on the front seat The teacher said" Arjun ...go wash your face!!!" The class is taken on projectors with lights off and if the lecture is really boring..one can really sleep if he's a backbencher..!!! The teacher is really good and helpful but we guys are not ready for all the super advanced and technical things in max...... No one among my colleagues is going to use it in future projects during this degree...even not in their final year... It's way too technical for an architecture student. I mean there are a jungle and forests of commands in it. There are a lot of commands in it which architects are not going to use. Take for example the modifiers list...Sometimes it gets really irritating to find yours. From an architecture student point of view I think that Max is an overkill. And I'm specifically talking about still architectural visualization here my friends. Even if it's walkthrough and a really nice one then the render time in max is a down side. I mean if we quickly want to show a client his building we can do a walkthrough in sketchup in a flash!!

What I strongly believe that Max is for modelmakers ...Google SketchUp is for architects and there is a possibility of UV mapping in sketchup someone has already made a plugin that's still here on SCF ..UV toys I think. .I remember that thing but haven't downloaded it yet. An architect has to design a building. SketchUp has that free flowing and free thinking kinda look that max doesn't have. I mean it has the best orbiting among all the 3d softwares in the world that i've used or know about. Really one feels like he's walking around in his building and changing it. The feeling of passion comes in SketchUp which all other 3d software lack.

How about India??? because sketchup usage hasn't been at peak here as compared to other countries...Moreover there are no training centres for the same to the best of my knowledge

@thomthom said:

@arjunmax09 said:

Can you give any tips here that you've discovered through your experience??pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez??

I've written down some topics for some blog posts I've been thinking of writing.

so the work is in progress..you've noted down them on paper ....it's all in the mind...only the thing is to be executed yeah??

Hi everyone!!!

Recently I got in an argument with one of my classmates regarding which is better in still architectural rendering and modelling.. Google SketchUp and 3dsmax..I strongly support SketchUp for pure architectural needs...here are some excerpts of that argument...

My statement..
SketchUp is faster.. the rendering is a lot more easy than max, max is hell lot of technical, has big learning curve, high on system resources, occupies more hard disk space

His statement
3dsmax
Provides Best rendering in the world. You can create organic shapes in max. You have no idea about the power of max

My argument
A movie like Avatar and games like Need for Spped can be made in max. But we are going to become architects and really don't need to get into all that things..You can create any organic shape you can think of in SketchUp provided you have all the necessary plugins.

His argument
Now Arjun, not everyone would be having plugins....

My argument
Advanced users keep all kinda stuff...

What's your opinion guys??? I know this is kinda stupid thing to ask on a sketchucation forum and everyone is going to support SketchUp but still couldn't stop myself from typing all this.!!! But just wanna show him all your commments...!!!

Does anyone has an idea about SketchUp 8 Launch date... like.. what's the progress of sketchup 8 development...any news or something ...also when is the next basecamp seminar gonna happen??

hey rclub i checked your link

http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=27553&hilit=simon+le+bon

it's really complicated yaar!! really extreme advanced stuff.... i'm a person who learnt sketchup through sketchup for dummies book and video tutorials...please can anyone post a video tutorial somewhere for novices like me?? I'd be extremely grateful to that person.Extrude tools is way too advanced than learning sketchup itself..!!

@thomthom said:

I've used VfSU since the first version. I tried Maxwell quickly, but found it very slow. The thing with V-Ray is that is can be very fast, but it can also be veryt slow if you set the wrong settings. It all has to be adopted to the scene.

Can you give any tips here that you've discovered through your experience??pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez, pleeeeeeez??

@thomthom said:

I've yet to come across an unbiased render engine that is faster than a biased engine.

what does that mean??

whoa whoa hohoo hooho people have really become nostalgic about french curves here man!!! well i'm was not really good at french curves in my Architectural Drawing subject in my second year.specifically the solid geometry thingyyy.. we had to draw conical sections and still find french curves really cumbersome i have a 12 piece set...I'm like ...try this one... oh no it doesn't work.. ok..try this one...the curve is slight imperfect .....okay try this one...this one is also crappy!! .....why do we use french curves at all???

@simon le bon said:

Hi Rich & Arjun,

Thank you Rich to recall my study about EEbRbF. This tells me my work was of some interest.
Pilou, which is known as a very productive SCF member had worked a lot on these extrude tools:
you can take a look into "french section":
*!s

eh...the screen says that i'm not authorised to see this section when i click on these links how to unlock this thingy man!!?? some cheat code or something you know

Does anyone know this plugin's video tutorial link?? or any pdf file giving tutorials in this plugin??. I"m new to this plugin and finding to work efficiently with it a bit complicated...

@anssi said:

Whenever I can I use a style with bacfaces set to solid black and front faces to white. I try never to paint back faces. This style setting eliminates for most of the time the need to use the Section Cut Face ruby, as correctly modeled sections are rendered black "inside".

Anssi

Very clever method Anssi Sir!!!

does anyone know this plugin's video tutorial link?? or any pdf file giving tutorials in this plugin

does anyone know this plugin's video tutorial link..... ??

@xrok1 said:

purple is to indicate back faces. if you see any you should right click the face and select reverse faces to avoid problems anyways. never leave back faces (purple) showing (its bad practice), they will cause problems when rendering.

i already know this man..can anyone tell me to please...please delete this ugly material forever from the sketchup interface??