@tig said:
Getting this back onto the topic...
The existence of [a] God [and that's 'any god', not just the Christian version] is a separate issue from the exact question in hand - although if you were to define God as "the being who created the Universe" then they do get uncomfortably close!
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...So, what evidence do the 'believers' have that would withstand the tests of evidence of a court of law?
I have seen nothing presented thus far that has not been a regurgitation of entrenched opinion, dogma and cant; without any proper evidential 'proof' or reasoned 'argument'!
...so sometime in the future opinions might have changed, and we might all accept that, "The Universe came into existence as a result of supernatural intervention." BUT there are really no indications of this; except from the extreme-believers' side, but they always fail to provide any concrete, testable evidence anyway...
I'm not sure the conversation ever veered off topic, as you are still talking about beliefs and evidence, etc. My opinion is that science and religion are two separate spheres that can (and should) co-exist. To ascribe the creation of the universe to the Christian God based on the Bible I think is quite far-fetched. I have no idea if there is a supreme being/ intelligence/ or what have you that created the universe. If there is, that "God" sure doesn't seem to be much involved in the day to day running of this planet.