Sketchucation Tools 5.0.2

alexpacio2013

@TIG Nothing to do, I installed FredoLib5 02 and now SketchUp 2024, 2025, and 2026 all freeze. I don’t know what to do anymore — the programs close automatically right after startup without showing any message. I have no idea what to do, and it’s essential for me, especially Lord of the Toolbars, because of my issues — I simply can’t do without it anymore. If I delete the FredoLib5 folder, SketchUp starts again, but of course without all the plugins connected to Fredo. I also tried installing an older version (15.4e), but it still won’t start. Help.

Rich O Brien

Download the SketchUp installers: https://www.sketchup.com/download/all

Right click the installer and choose Run as Admin

When prompted choose Repair

See if that alleviates any issues.

If not move your Plugins folder to your Desktop and start SketchUp so it creates a new Plugins folder

Begin by install Sketchucation Tools: https://sketchucation.com/plugin/696-sketchucationtools

See if there are issues starting SketchUp. If not you can rule out this as a cause.

Begin installing other extensions and seeing when the issue begins.

There may some clash or some corrupt file, basically anything, because everyone's setup is unique to them.

I have never seen a FredoLib5 folder. I do see a Fredo6_!LibFredo6 folder.

So you just need to take some time to figure out what could be causing a clash that stops SketchUp launching. The Plugins folder is a sensitive place and an errant file or out of sequence setup will lead to issues.

I think the first thing to rule out is some system related issue. Moving your Plugins temporarily to a neutral location will rule out a system issue.

Then it's a case or recreating your setup and seeing when the clash happens.

With every new SketchUp version I treat it as a new start. I never drag old stuff into places. I use our own Bundles system to re-install extensions for older versions.

gullfo

@TIG said in Sketchucation Tools 5.0.2:

The reason the toolbar appears is, because there are updates available - hence the red marker on the first button - not present otherwise.
If you don't want the updates simply dock the toolbar in the side bar with others, it's unobtrusive...

ONE ISSUE - a lot of the "updates" are way older than the ones i have installed... not sure if maybe the extension developer does not have their plugins in the correct database/format/link etc but i've got plugins 2-3 years old when all of them on my system are current...

e.g. i installed the latest LibFredo and it still shows up in the list of updates (active update button) with the same rev identifier...

anyways, i docked it in my toolbar, but i think the main complaint for most people, i don't want to dock it, i want to only select it in the extensions menu...

Gábor

@gullfo Have you installed the latest LibFredo with SketchucationTools or manually by downloading it from the website? If the second option, then the Tools doesn't know about it being installed, and indicates a need for the update. After you update it with the Tools, you should not be prompted for an update again.

gullfo

manually like always. then all the other plugins which i installed before - i'm reluctant to install from the updater since many have the dates they're showing as very old compared to what i know is installed... might need some standard means of scanning known plugins and their respective update versions to compare? anyways i docked it and it's a non-issue for me, simply reporting observations at this point. cheers!

Edson

I installed 5.0.2 but it is not loading. See attached.

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TIG

There is no calls to a "DMLanguageHandler" directly associated with SketchUcation, so that's a mystery.
I'm wondering if it's part of the compiled @fredo6 licensing files ?
Or something else might be causing an issue which then clashes ?
I fact I can find nothing in any Plugins I use needing this [PC].
You are on a MAC running which SUp version ?
Under investigation....

fredo6

None of my plugins uses DMLanguageHandler either.

Edson: Could you look at your SU2025 setup and see where this could come from.

Can you also install Sketchucation 5.0.2 manually (by unzipping the rbz file into your Plugin directory).

Rich O Brien

DMLanguageHandler is a file used by Dale Martens in the likes of Profile Builder, Artisan etc

gullfo

it's this line:

Sketchup.require(File.join(File.dirname(__FILE__), 'DM_ProfileBuilder3/langhandler'))

in the DM_ProfileBuilder3.rb
it's likely that the profile builder folder did not get copied. when i "migrated" my 2025 plugins to 2026, it missed 4 folders from the "required" lines. once the folders were copied over, it all works.

note on my system the DM_ProfileBuilder3 folder copied, it was other plugin folders which did not.

Edson

I am not being able to post here

Rich O Brien

@Edson said in Sketchucation Tools 5.0.2:

I am not being able to post here

You just did?

ARQALBINO

Hi, i can´t load my plugin FredoPic2Shape, i want to try up first, i really like Fredo Plugins on SketchUp 2021

Rich O Brien

@ARQALBINO said in Sketchucation Tools 5.0.2:

Hi, i can´t load my plugin FredoPic2Shape, i want to try up first, i really like Fredo Plugins on SketchUp 2021

It requires Libfredo to function.

TIG

@Edson

Can you please cause the error dialog again, this time click the bottom-left button to 'Copy All Errors' to your clipboard.
Then paste the full error report into a reply here.
It should tell us if DM's code is somehow messing up our files' loading...

TIG

@gullfo
So this file/folder copying was an error with the v2026 extension-migration tool by SketchUp, not copying all DM's files over and causing an error ??
It has nothing to do with the SketchUcation extension - except in so far that it breaks it and stops it loading !!

Macho3001

Hi Dear Rich, Tig ! Firstly, many many thanks for helping us users out at Sketchucation !!

I have an error cropping up on my system after installing the latest SketchUcationTools_v5.0.2.rbz update, from the link provided by your good self.

I was updating LibFredo6 to the latest version, and thereafter I just installed SketchUcationTools_v5.0.2.rbz on my SU2018 Pro system. It made my previous installation disappear, and after restarting Sketchup it now gives the following error on startup, while many of my purchased Fredo plugins (like Thrupaint etc) have stopped working which now ask me to install sketchucation extensionstore v3.1. Can you please help...? Screenshots of the load errors are attached herein below.... Will be deeply obliged if you could help: -

Thanks!

Nitin

gullfo

@TIG yes that is my observation. the missing folders from the 2026 install-first-run migration process cause the errors in the sketchucation startup.

TIG

@Macho3001

I'll look into it further...

Meanwhile:
It looks like you have an Extension loaded which doesn't report a Version in the Extension Manager - if it returns '' it ought to be OK, but with a nil it cause the trip hazard.
A known cause is some of Chuck Vali's stuff.
But the nil return was trapped for this very reason.

Can you check your Extensions and unload any without a Version set, and see it SketchUcation then loads on a restart. And let me know what Extension[s] are the culprits...

Macho3001

Hi TIG !!

Thnks so much for the pointer dear TIG. I unloaded Chuck Vali's Instant Architecture but that did not solve the issue. Also, please pardon my limited knowledge, but could you please guide me how (and where) to check the Version / Version Set of any extension.... Is it where it says "Unsigned" ? I am attaching a screenshot of my SU2018 Pro Extension Manager screen below.

Thanks !