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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
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      He's a simple Dolphin if anyone wants one.
      It's only very quick and straight out of my head so may offend the aesthetic sensibilities of any passing Aquatic Mammal specialists.
      Saved the proxy back to 8.


      Dolphin.gif


      DolphinSU8.skp

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      • HornOxxH Offline
        HornOxx
        last edited by

        👍
        a great idea and model for this place - thanks for that

        never trust a skinny cook

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        • ntxdaveN Offline
          ntxdave
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          Very nice Box - good basic example of how to use the tools.

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          • alsomarA Offline
            alsomar Extension Creator
            last edited by

            Well, here comes mine:

            http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/lQPbJA.jpg

            and after a little bit of Thea and Photoshop, this is the result:

            http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/FVT3MO.jpg

            Alejandro Soriano Visuals · All my links

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              love that tyre!

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                optimaforever
                last edited by

                impressive!
                did you model one groove, component it and copy it in revolving fashion, then explode them before subdividing??

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                • alsomarA Offline
                  alsomar Extension Creator
                  last edited by

                  @optimaforever said:

                  did you model one groove, component it and copy it in revolving fashion, then explode them before subdividing??

                  You nailed it. That's exactly what I did 😉

                  Alejandro Soriano Visuals · All my links

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    How many time the subdivision itself ? Negligible or...

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                    • alsomarA Offline
                      alsomar Extension Creator
                      last edited by

                      @pilou said:

                      How many time the subdivision itself ? Negligible or...

                      There's two subdivisions and it took about 2 mins to complete the process.

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        @alsomar said:

                        and after a little bit of Thea and Photoshop, this is the result:

                        Great model - and I love that presentation style. Reminded me of the LEGO instructions.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          numerobis
                          last edited by

                          @alsomar said:

                          There's two subdivisions and it took about 2 mins to complete the process.

                          💚
                          I really hope Trimble is following this thread and finally realizes that there is something wrong - 2 mins for such a small model is a joke and one reason why i still do my subd work in Max.
                          Something like this should be generated instantly.

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                          • olisheaO Offline
                            olishea
                            last edited by

                            Yes and about a half second in Wings 3D (which is pretty much redundant) and a half second in meshlab. SU is really bad at subdivision times; makes you wonder if you can integrate a subdivision app via a plugin so that SU doesn't even have to calculate the subdivision at all.

                            oli

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
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                              @olishea said:

                              SU is really bad at subdivision times; makes you wonder if you can integrate a subdivision app via a plugin so that SU doesn't even have to calculate the subdivision at all.

                              At the moment; no. The current API require me to generate new model entities in the model DOM. Where as the ideal way would be to be able to override the viewport presentation of an object. Basically highjack the render-pipeline for a given object. That would allowed me to avoid the biggest bottleneck: generating SU entities which each needs to merge with each other for the special SU stickyness.

                              The SU magic isn't ideal for extensions like SUbD where you aren't supposed to be editing the final result in the viewport. Had SU known only about the control mesh then any tool could edit the mesh while the viewport displayed the subdivided result.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • olisheaO Offline
                                olishea
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                                @thomthom said:

                                Had SU known only about the control mesh then any tool could edit the mesh while the viewport displayed the subdivided result.

                                You explain things better than I do! 😄

                                This is what I mean; is there a way to show the subdivided mesh in a small window that runs real-time with the SU model?

                                You would simply play with the control mesh in SU and a window shows a subdivided version that moves in real time with the SU model? When you rotate, zoom and orbit the subdivided "render" does so too.

                                Then when you are happy you can do the final subdivision inside SU right at the end.

                                oli

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @olishea said:

                                  This is what I mean; is there a way to show the subdivided mesh in a small window that runs real-time with the SU model?

                                  Oh, well, that surely is the next thing I'd poke into once OpenSubdiv is implemented! I was thinking of it in two stages:

                                  1. A preview window on the side.
                                  2. Make the background of that preview window transparent and overlay it the SU viewport. (not sure how well that'll work since it'd be a separate 3d spacxe on top of SU's view...)

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • olisheaO Offline
                                    olishea
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice!!

                                    I thought I was talking jibber jabber but you catch my drift! 😉

                                    Can't you already do something similar with Maxwell? It renders a subdivided version of your control mesh? I'm not maxwell user so unsure. Also needs to be realtime, simple shader.

                                    If you could switch between SU viewport and a SubD render overlay that would be better.....kinda like Thea where you can see the render in the viewport. If you could press a hotkey and the screen changes to the subdivided render that would be a total game changer for SU.

                                    Even if it was a preview window I would be happy to be fair.

                                    oli

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @olishea said:

                                      Can't you already do something similar with Maxwell?

                                      Yea I wonder if I saw a YouTube video on that. Though I'm not a Maxwell user...

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        numerobis
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                                        @thomthom said:

                                        1. A preview window on the side.
                                        2. Make the background of that preview window transparent and overlay it the SU viewport. (not sure how well that'll work since it'd be a separate 3d spacxe on top of SU's view...)

                                        Please, no separate window! 😮

                                        @olishea said:

                                        Can't you already do something similar with Maxwell? It renders a subdivided version of your control mesh? I'm not maxwell user so unsure. Also needs to be realtime, simple shader.

                                        Yes, Maxwell has render time subdivision. It's not a shader, it's a modifier, that produces real subdivision geometry.
                                        http://support.nextlimit.com/display/mxdocsv3/Pixar+OpenSubdiv

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
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                                          @numerobis said:

                                          Please, no separate window! 😮

                                          Not much way around that - since the SU API doesn't give access to the pipe-line. It'd off course be optional to use it.

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                            ZahariStoyanov
                                            last edited by

                                            Not quite sure where to post this but, since I'll be applying SubD on it, I'll ask here: any ideas how to fix the topology of the red section in this model?
                                            Benz+190+Evo.skp

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