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    • M Offline
      ManuHeel
      last edited by

      Hello to everybody, I'm ManuHeel.
      I've been using SketchUp for 3 or 4 years now.

      I was adding the last things to my model when moving a part led me to nowhere, and I can't find my model anymore. I searched in forums for a solution but I didn't manage to fix this, I tried Zoom Extents, but nothing came up.

      I can't see my model, I can't see the axes, sometimes I found the origin as a dot, but I can zoom as much as I want without finding my model. My last backup is also in this state.

      Please help me, I lost all my work πŸ˜•

      ManuHeel.

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      • cottyC Offline
        cotty
        last edited by

        Did you check: layers, styles, hidden geometry, model statistics, outliner, ...?
        If you use Ctrl+A, is there something in the entitiy info window?

        Is it a model you can share?

        my SketchUp gallery

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        • M Offline
          ManuHeel
          last edited by

          If I select all, it says that i selected 7 entities, which are my 7 components in the model.
          I can share it if this can help.
          I don't know where to found layers, styles, model statistics, outliner, sorry -_-'

          EDIT : Found them, and my components are here, but can't be displayed πŸ˜•

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            Is it possible you've got some little line segment or something at a long distance from the origin? When you hit Zoom Extents, where on the screen does the origin display?

            Posting the SKP file would be helpful.

            Etaoin Shrdlu

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              @manuheel said:

              If I select all, it says that i selected 7 entities, which are my 7 components in the model.
              I can share it if this can help.
              I don't know where to found layers, styles, model statistics, outliner, sorry -_-'

              EDIT : Found them, and my components are here, but can't be displayed πŸ˜•
              Why not ?
              Have you used Model Info > Statistic > Fix problems ?
              Are all Layers ON ?
              Is View > Hidden Geometry ON ?
              Are Guides set ON ?
              If you Zoom-extents what happens ?
              If you activate a Scene-tab what happens ?
              If you export the Model's Components [7] to a Collection and then edit each one of those SKPs in turn, fixing issues etc and erasing guides/points, and any rogue geometry far far from the origin etc... what happens ?
              Reload the Components one at a time into the problem SKP and see what happens ?
              Load the Components one at a time into an empty SKP and see what happens ?

              TIG

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              • M Offline
                ManuHeel
                last edited by

                @Dave :

                I was moving a part when this happened so maybe it went 10000000 miles away, so yes.

                Zoom Extents get the origin (when I manage to get it) to the left middle.

                I can't post the file, it's 5.7 Mio and I can't post over 4 Mio

                @TIG

                Everything is on, but I'll try to add the components in an empty SKP

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                • M Offline
                  ManuHeel
                  last edited by

                  Okay, I found the component which was causing trouble.

                  I was adding the black notes to my piano model and I think a black note is causing trouble.
                  Adding this particular component gives me the problem.

                  If you can find a way to fix it, here is the model, if not, it's not that bad as I got my other components back.


                  Buggy Piano Component

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    It looks to me as if you deleted all the geometry in the component while it was open for editing. That'll certainly cause you problems. I guess I'd start over.

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      @dave r said:

                      It looks to me as if you deleted all the geometry in the component while it was open for editing. That'll certainly cause you problems. I guess I'd start over.

                      If you edit the piano component and select all entities, there are 826 entities:
                      piano_entities.jpg

                      If you use the position camera tool, you get this eye height:
                      eyeheight.jpg

                      πŸ˜•

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                      • M Offline
                        ManuHeel
                        last edited by

                        Yeah, I don't know what happened ><

                        Don't bother, the piano is the only thing I can rebuild without problem, as I have the measures.

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          m=Sketchup.active_model #<Sketchup::Model:0x5ae8378> bb=m.bounds #<Geom::BoundingBox:0x88ce15c> bb.min Point3d(-3.06746, 0, -1.1692e+049) bb.max Point3d(53.2677, 9.35361e+049, 12.0827)
                          Clearly something nasty is a zillion miles away πŸ˜’
                          Those values are astronomical !

                          TIG

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Ah ha! It is the distant geometry thing.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              At 9.35361e+049 inches
                              Something is @
                              1,476,264,204,545,454,550,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles
                              from the origin !
                              OR
                              ~25,112,920,5364,175,316,000,000,000,000,000,000 light-years
                              which is a LOT more than the diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy @
                              ~120,000 light-years
                              OR the observable Universe itself @
                              ~93,000,000,000 light-years
                              πŸ˜’
                              However, if you Select All, get the Component and then Explode it etc... then query the Edges in the model [there are only Faces and Edges in it] - for 'small' and 'large' we get this:
                              Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e| p e.length.to_mm if e.length < 0.25.mm || e.length > 1500.mm} 0.0639867005970645 0.0639867005970814
                              The very tiny edges could cause issues but this suggests that some of them are simply far far away ?
                              This code finds just one culprit:
                              Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e|p e.bounds.max if e.bounds.max.y > 10.m} Point3d(0.19685, 9.35361e+049, -1e+030)
                              So we can delete it thus:
                              Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e|e.erase! if e.bounds.max.y > 10.m}
                              Then a Zoom-extents works... and all is well again ! 😍
                              A v8 of the fixed SKP is attached... πŸ˜„


                              Capture.PNG


                              Buggy Piano Component.skp

                              TIG

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
                                last edited by

                                That has to set a record for most distant geometry in SketchUp.

                                Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                • BoxB Offline
                                  Box
                                  last edited by

                                  Did you find a talking donkey at far far away.

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                                  • M Offline
                                    ManuHeel
                                    last edited by

                                    Woah, thanks TIG.

                                    Next time I'll try not to destroy the space-time continuum πŸ˜„

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                                    • ely862meE Offline
                                      ely862me
                                      last edited by

                                      I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                      Elisei (sketchupper)


                                      Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                      Come and See EliseiDesign

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                                      • cottyC Offline
                                        cotty
                                        last edited by

                                        @ely862me said:

                                        I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                        I'm looking forward to the day he implements this technique in his plugins to increase their speed πŸ˜„

                                        my SketchUp gallery

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                                        • ely862meE Offline
                                          ely862me
                                          last edited by

                                          @cotty said:

                                          @ely862me said:

                                          I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                          I'm looking forward to the day he implements this technique in his plugins to increase their speed πŸ˜„

                                          I believe that are not his plugins that are not up to speed, but the universe we use them in .

                                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                          Come and See EliseiDesign

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