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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      Is it possible you've got some little line segment or something at a long distance from the origin? When you hit Zoom Extents, where on the screen does the origin display?

      Posting the SKP file would be helpful.

      Etaoin Shrdlu

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        @manuheel said:

        If I select all, it says that i selected 7 entities, which are my 7 components in the model.
        I can share it if this can help.
        I don't know where to found layers, styles, model statistics, outliner, sorry -_-'

        EDIT : Found them, and my components are here, but can't be displayed πŸ˜•
        Why not ?
        Have you used Model Info > Statistic > Fix problems ?
        Are all Layers ON ?
        Is View > Hidden Geometry ON ?
        Are Guides set ON ?
        If you Zoom-extents what happens ?
        If you activate a Scene-tab what happens ?
        If you export the Model's Components [7] to a Collection and then edit each one of those SKPs in turn, fixing issues etc and erasing guides/points, and any rogue geometry far far from the origin etc... what happens ?
        Reload the Components one at a time into the problem SKP and see what happens ?
        Load the Components one at a time into an empty SKP and see what happens ?

        TIG

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        • M Offline
          ManuHeel
          last edited by

          @Dave :

          I was moving a part when this happened so maybe it went 10000000 miles away, so yes.

          Zoom Extents get the origin (when I manage to get it) to the left middle.

          I can't post the file, it's 5.7 Mio and I can't post over 4 Mio

          @TIG

          Everything is on, but I'll try to add the components in an empty SKP

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          • M Offline
            ManuHeel
            last edited by

            Okay, I found the component which was causing trouble.

            I was adding the black notes to my piano model and I think a black note is causing trouble.
            Adding this particular component gives me the problem.

            If you can find a way to fix it, here is the model, if not, it's not that bad as I got my other components back.


            Buggy Piano Component

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              It looks to me as if you deleted all the geometry in the component while it was open for editing. That'll certainly cause you problems. I guess I'd start over.

              Etaoin Shrdlu

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              • cottyC Offline
                cotty
                last edited by

                @dave r said:

                It looks to me as if you deleted all the geometry in the component while it was open for editing. That'll certainly cause you problems. I guess I'd start over.

                If you edit the piano component and select all entities, there are 826 entities:
                piano_entities.jpg

                If you use the position camera tool, you get this eye height:
                eyeheight.jpg

                πŸ˜•

                my SketchUp gallery

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                • M Offline
                  ManuHeel
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, I don't know what happened ><

                  Don't bother, the piano is the only thing I can rebuild without problem, as I have the measures.

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    m=Sketchup.active_model #<Sketchup::Model:0x5ae8378> bb=m.bounds #<Geom::BoundingBox:0x88ce15c> bb.min Point3d(-3.06746, 0, -1.1692e+049) bb.max Point3d(53.2677, 9.35361e+049, 12.0827)
                    Clearly something nasty is a zillion miles away πŸ˜’
                    Those values are astronomical !

                    TIG

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      Ah ha! It is the distant geometry thing.

                      Etaoin Shrdlu

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        At 9.35361e+049 inches
                        Something is @
                        1,476,264,204,545,454,550,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles
                        from the origin !
                        OR
                        ~25,112,920,5364,175,316,000,000,000,000,000,000 light-years
                        which is a LOT more than the diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy @
                        ~120,000 light-years
                        OR the observable Universe itself @
                        ~93,000,000,000 light-years
                        πŸ˜’
                        However, if you Select All, get the Component and then Explode it etc... then query the Edges in the model [there are only Faces and Edges in it] - for 'small' and 'large' we get this:
                        Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e| p e.length.to_mm if e.length < 0.25.mm || e.length > 1500.mm} 0.0639867005970645 0.0639867005970814
                        The very tiny edges could cause issues but this suggests that some of them are simply far far away ?
                        This code finds just one culprit:
                        Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e|p e.bounds.max if e.bounds.max.y > 10.m} Point3d(0.19685, 9.35361e+049, -1e+030)
                        So we can delete it thus:
                        Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e|e.erase! if e.bounds.max.y > 10.m}
                        Then a Zoom-extents works... and all is well again ! 😍
                        A v8 of the fixed SKP is attached... πŸ˜„


                        Capture.PNG


                        Buggy Piano Component.skp

                        TIG

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          That has to set a record for most distant geometry in SketchUp.

                          Etaoin Shrdlu

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            Did you find a talking donkey at far far away.

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                            • M Offline
                              ManuHeel
                              last edited by

                              Woah, thanks TIG.

                              Next time I'll try not to destroy the space-time continuum πŸ˜„

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                              • ely862meE Offline
                                ely862me
                                last edited by

                                I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                Elisei (sketchupper)


                                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                                • cottyC Offline
                                  cotty
                                  last edited by

                                  @ely862me said:

                                  I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                  I'm looking forward to the day he implements this technique in his plugins to increase their speed πŸ˜„

                                  my SketchUp gallery

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                                  • ely862meE Offline
                                    ely862me
                                    last edited by

                                    @cotty said:

                                    @ely862me said:

                                    I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                    I'm looking forward to the day he implements this technique in his plugins to increase their speed πŸ˜„

                                    I believe that are not his plugins that are not up to speed, but the universe we use them in .

                                    Elisei (sketchupper)


                                    Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                    Come and See EliseiDesign

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