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    • cottyC Offline
      cotty
      last edited by

      Did you check: layers, styles, hidden geometry, model statistics, outliner, ...?
      If you use Ctrl+A, is there something in the entitiy info window?

      Is it a model you can share?

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      • M Offline
        ManuHeel
        last edited by

        If I select all, it says that i selected 7 entities, which are my 7 components in the model.
        I can share it if this can help.
        I don't know where to found layers, styles, model statistics, outliner, sorry -_-'

        EDIT : Found them, and my components are here, but can't be displayed πŸ˜•

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          Is it possible you've got some little line segment or something at a long distance from the origin? When you hit Zoom Extents, where on the screen does the origin display?

          Posting the SKP file would be helpful.

          Etaoin Shrdlu

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @manuheel said:

            If I select all, it says that i selected 7 entities, which are my 7 components in the model.
            I can share it if this can help.
            I don't know where to found layers, styles, model statistics, outliner, sorry -_-'

            EDIT : Found them, and my components are here, but can't be displayed πŸ˜•
            Why not ?
            Have you used Model Info > Statistic > Fix problems ?
            Are all Layers ON ?
            Is View > Hidden Geometry ON ?
            Are Guides set ON ?
            If you Zoom-extents what happens ?
            If you activate a Scene-tab what happens ?
            If you export the Model's Components [7] to a Collection and then edit each one of those SKPs in turn, fixing issues etc and erasing guides/points, and any rogue geometry far far from the origin etc... what happens ?
            Reload the Components one at a time into the problem SKP and see what happens ?
            Load the Components one at a time into an empty SKP and see what happens ?

            TIG

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            • M Offline
              ManuHeel
              last edited by

              @Dave :

              I was moving a part when this happened so maybe it went 10000000 miles away, so yes.

              Zoom Extents get the origin (when I manage to get it) to the left middle.

              I can't post the file, it's 5.7 Mio and I can't post over 4 Mio

              @TIG

              Everything is on, but I'll try to add the components in an empty SKP

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              • M Offline
                ManuHeel
                last edited by

                Okay, I found the component which was causing trouble.

                I was adding the black notes to my piano model and I think a black note is causing trouble.
                Adding this particular component gives me the problem.

                If you can find a way to fix it, here is the model, if not, it's not that bad as I got my other components back.


                Buggy Piano Component

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  It looks to me as if you deleted all the geometry in the component while it was open for editing. That'll certainly cause you problems. I guess I'd start over.

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                  • cottyC Offline
                    cotty
                    last edited by

                    @dave r said:

                    It looks to me as if you deleted all the geometry in the component while it was open for editing. That'll certainly cause you problems. I guess I'd start over.

                    If you edit the piano component and select all entities, there are 826 entities:
                    piano_entities.jpg

                    If you use the position camera tool, you get this eye height:
                    eyeheight.jpg

                    πŸ˜•

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                    • M Offline
                      ManuHeel
                      last edited by

                      Yeah, I don't know what happened ><

                      Don't bother, the piano is the only thing I can rebuild without problem, as I have the measures.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        m=Sketchup.active_model #<Sketchup::Model:0x5ae8378> bb=m.bounds #<Geom::BoundingBox:0x88ce15c> bb.min Point3d(-3.06746, 0, -1.1692e+049) bb.max Point3d(53.2677, 9.35361e+049, 12.0827)
                        Clearly something nasty is a zillion miles away πŸ˜’
                        Those values are astronomical !

                        TIG

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Ah ha! It is the distant geometry thing.

                          Etaoin Shrdlu

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            At 9.35361e+049 inches
                            Something is @
                            1,476,264,204,545,454,550,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles
                            from the origin !
                            OR
                            ~25,112,920,5364,175,316,000,000,000,000,000,000 light-years
                            which is a LOT more than the diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy @
                            ~120,000 light-years
                            OR the observable Universe itself @
                            ~93,000,000,000 light-years
                            πŸ˜’
                            However, if you Select All, get the Component and then Explode it etc... then query the Edges in the model [there are only Faces and Edges in it] - for 'small' and 'large' we get this:
                            Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e| p e.length.to_mm if e.length < 0.25.mm || e.length > 1500.mm} 0.0639867005970645 0.0639867005970814
                            The very tiny edges could cause issues but this suggests that some of them are simply far far away ?
                            This code finds just one culprit:
                            Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e|p e.bounds.max if e.bounds.max.y > 10.m} Point3d(0.19685, 9.35361e+049, -1e+030)
                            So we can delete it thus:
                            Sketchup.active_model.entities.grep(Sketchup::Edge).each{|e|e.erase! if e.bounds.max.y > 10.m}
                            Then a Zoom-extents works... and all is well again ! 😍
                            A v8 of the fixed SKP is attached... πŸ˜„


                            Capture.PNG


                            Buggy Piano Component.skp

                            TIG

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              That has to set a record for most distant geometry in SketchUp.

                              Etaoin Shrdlu

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                Did you find a talking donkey at far far away.

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                                • M Offline
                                  ManuHeel
                                  last edited by

                                  Woah, thanks TIG.

                                  Next time I'll try not to destroy the space-time continuum πŸ˜„

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                                  • ely862meE Offline
                                    ely862me
                                    last edited by

                                    I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                    Elisei (sketchupper)


                                    Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                                    • cottyC Offline
                                      cotty
                                      last edited by

                                      @ely862me said:

                                      I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                      I'm looking forward to the day he implements this technique in his plugins to increase their speed πŸ˜„

                                      my SketchUp gallery

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                                      • ely862meE Offline
                                        ely862me
                                        last edited by

                                        @cotty said:

                                        @ely862me said:

                                        I believe Tig has just discovered a way to reduce the time of the light-year travel ! πŸ˜„

                                        I'm looking forward to the day he implements this technique in his plugins to increase their speed πŸ˜„

                                        I believe that are not his plugins that are not up to speed, but the universe we use them in .

                                        Elisei (sketchupper)


                                        Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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