I don't think anyone here is trying to discredit Vray, although I have always felt a disconnect between the easy use of Sketchup versus the professional nature of Vray. Watching a superb 10 minute Video of how to create lighting for one living room lamp in Vray, does not inspire me to attempt to do the same to illuminate 20 other lights in a scene, including the time it takes to render unfavorable outcomes.