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    thomthom
    last edited by 17 Jun 2013, 15:10

    But SketchUp isn't a .NET application. It'd be a complete rewrite of everything.

    But I think MRI Ruby is available in 64bit anyway.

    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      ilay7k
      last edited by 17 Jun 2013, 15:19

      @thomthom said:

      But SketchUp isn't a .NET application. It'd be a complete rewrite of everything.

      But I think MRI Ruby is available in 64bit anyway.

      and? ๐Ÿ‘ฟ What are sku team doing from release of 8? (Tom, i'm also at influence of name's this topic)
      for example, they was under gigantic company as Google, than become Trimble... please don't point thats small...even Maxon(8-12 developers) is having parallel development of cinema4d r15(current version is r14.042)

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        Mra
        last edited by 17 Jun 2013, 23:57

        Anyone else experience crashes with "X-ray mode on" with quadros?

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          thomthom
          last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 07:41

          @ilay7k said:

          @thomthom said:

          But SketchUp isn't a .NET application. It'd be a complete rewrite of everything.

          But I think MRI Ruby is available in 64bit anyway.

          and? ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

          Point being that switching framework isn't needed for 64bit Ruby. Just an information FYI.
          And it's be completely unrealistic to rewrite the whole application - then you could just start all over.

          @ilay7k said:

          for example, they was under gigantic company as Google, than become Trimble... please don't point thats small...

          Even though they where and are owned under large companies doesn't mean they have infinite resources and man-power. Google never poured developers at the SketchUp. They only wanted SketchUp for Google Earth integration - little more than that. At least Trimble has been hiring - new positions was announced immediately after the purchase was announced.

          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            thomthom
            last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 07:43

            @unknownuser said:

            Anyone else experience crashes with "X-ray mode on" with quadros?

            I got a Quadro 3800FX - no issues here. Driver version: 311.50.

            Do you have issues on all models? And it doesn't crash is you disable Hardware Acceleration? What about plugins - does it crash when plugins are disabled?

            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              Pixero
              last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 08:52

              Just a question:

              How come other software companies says their new 64bit application is faster and Trimble says SU won't be?
              Here's from Flash CC info:
              "64-bit Flash Professional CC is more modular and delivers unprecedented speed and stability."

              (As a sidenote, speed improvements is NOT the primary reason why I want SU 64bit)

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                thomthom
                last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 09:11

                Don't think that refer to 64bit being speedier. From that one could say 64bit is more modular - which also makes so sense - 64bit is just larger data structures. Nothing related to speed or modularity in any way. I think one should read that is "Flash Professional CC is more modular [...]".

                @pixero said:

                How come other software companies says their new 64bit application is faster
                I'd recommend a read up on "64bit myth" - where you get full technical details and a number of developers.

                Examples:
                http://www.synfire.com/content/myths-and-facts-about-64-bit
                https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/64bit-myths-facts/
                http://jervisdabreo.com/thetechcorner/tech-myth-a-64-bit-operating-system-is-faster/

                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  Pixero
                  last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 09:30

                  Yeah, but I read one note in Swedish saying:
                  "โ€ขFlash Pro CC โ€“ helt ombyggd 64-bitarsarkitektur ska gรถra programmet snabbare och stabilare."
                  I just googled to find something in english for the post.

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 10:04

                    Again - that's referring to "Flash Pro CC", not 64bit. Though it can appear misleading the way they present it there.

                    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      sketch3d.de
                      last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 10:41

                      @thomthom said:

                      Don't think that refer to 64bit being speedier.

                      will be interesting to see all these users demanding a 64bit version bitching here again why there 4gb models are soooooo slow...

                      scnr
                      Norbert

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 10:57

                        x_X

                        I'm falling into the same old trap...

                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          bmike
                          last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 15:02

                          the icons that follow my cursor around sometimes get sticky.
                          orbit seems to do it most often.
                          when i spacebar back to select... i'll be stuck with orbit.
                          have to manually go up and hit the icon, and then things switch over.

                          latest SU pro 2013 update, latest and greatest mac osx.

                          mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                            Mra
                            last edited by 18 Jun 2013, 23:07

                            @thomthom said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Anyone else experience crashes with "X-ray mode on" with quadros?

                            I got a Quadro 3800FX - no issues here. Driver version: 311.50.

                            Do you have issues on all models? And it doesn't crash is you disable Hardware Acceleration? What about plugins - does it crash when plugins are disabled?

                            It only happens like 30% of the time on a particularly heavy model, I'm running a Quadro 2000 with 311.50.

                            Thanks though, I think it must be this particular model.

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                              Mike Amos
                              last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:11

                              I still find that changing tools is a pita, I have to select the new tool multiple times and am forever getting caught out when the tool STILL does not change over, then another crash because the program cannot deal with multiple tool requests.

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 13:31

                                @mike amos said:

                                I still find that changing tools is a pita, I have to select the new tool multiple times and am forever getting caught out when the tool STILL does not change over, then another crash because the program cannot deal with multiple tool requests.

                                ?
                                Never experienced that. Does it also occur when plugins are disabled?

                                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by 23 Jun 2013, 11:02

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  on the rhino or sketchup thing..

                                  i'm in the middle of a concrete project right now.. i like to use software to get cutlists to the crew.

                                  super offtopic but..

                                  here's some time lapse footage of the stuff i posted on page9 being built..

                                  dotdotdot

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                                    Mike Amos
                                    last edited by 23 Jun 2013, 13:45

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    @mike amos said:

                                    I still find that changing tools is a pita, I have to select the new tool multiple times and am forever getting caught out when the tool STILL does not change over, then another crash because the program cannot deal with multiple tool requests.

                                    ?
                                    Never experienced that. Does it also occur when plugins are disabled?

                                    Yes, it does at that. Corrupt install or just plain ol' pita from the random world that is sketchup (OR ANY OTHER SOFTWARE BEFORE SOMEONE MENTIONS IT).

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 24 Jun 2013, 07:47

                                      You experience this in other applications as well?

                                      Any chance you use a wireless mouse? Checked if it needs new batteries?

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        Mike Amos
                                        last edited by 24 Jun 2013, 07:51

                                        No problem with other programs, no wireless mouse, no difference with fresh installs either.

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                                          congellous
                                          last edited by 12 Jul 2013, 09:37

                                          I was ecstatic with the ease of installing plug ins, new computer, new sketchup pro 2013 and then I tried to use it - Bezier tools Fredo = bug splat over and over, Extrusion tools bug splat, I haven't been able to do a serious project on it. Any advice ?

                                          I'm on OSX 10.8.4, Sk2013

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