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    • M Offline
      Mra
      last edited by

      Anyone else experience crashes with "X-ray mode on" with quadros?

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @ilay7k said:

        @thomthom said:

        But SketchUp isn't a .NET application. It'd be a complete rewrite of everything.

        But I think MRI Ruby is available in 64bit anyway.

        and? 👿

        Point being that switching framework isn't needed for 64bit Ruby. Just an information FYI.
        And it's be completely unrealistic to rewrite the whole application - then you could just start all over.

        @ilay7k said:

        for example, they was under gigantic company as Google, than become Trimble... please don't point thats small...

        Even though they where and are owned under large companies doesn't mean they have infinite resources and man-power. Google never poured developers at the SketchUp. They only wanted SketchUp for Google Earth integration - little more than that. At least Trimble has been hiring - new positions was announced immediately after the purchase was announced.

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @unknownuser said:

          Anyone else experience crashes with "X-ray mode on" with quadros?

          I got a Quadro 3800FX - no issues here. Driver version: 311.50.

          Do you have issues on all models? And it doesn't crash is you disable Hardware Acceleration? What about plugins - does it crash when plugins are disabled?

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • PixeroP Offline
            Pixero
            last edited by

            Just a question:

            How come other software companies says their new 64bit application is faster and Trimble says SU won't be?
            Here's from Flash CC info:
            "64-bit Flash Professional CC is more modular and delivers unprecedented speed and stability."

            (As a sidenote, speed improvements is NOT the primary reason why I want SU 64bit)

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              Don't think that refer to 64bit being speedier. From that one could say 64bit is more modular - which also makes so sense - 64bit is just larger data structures. Nothing related to speed or modularity in any way. I think one should read that is "Flash Professional CC is more modular [...]".

              @pixero said:

              How come other software companies says their new 64bit application is faster
              I'd recommend a read up on "64bit myth" - where you get full technical details and a number of developers.

              Examples:
              http://www.synfire.com/content/myths-and-facts-about-64-bit
              https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/64bit-myths-facts/
              http://jervisdabreo.com/thetechcorner/tech-myth-a-64-bit-operating-system-is-faster/

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • PixeroP Offline
                Pixero
                last edited by

                Yeah, but I read one note in Swedish saying:
                "•Flash Pro CC – helt ombyggd 64-bitarsarkitektur ska göra programmet snabbare och stabilare."
                I just googled to find something in english for the post.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  Again - that's referring to "Flash Pro CC", not 64bit. Though it can appear misleading the way they present it there.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • sketch3d.deS Offline
                    sketch3d.de
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    Don't think that refer to 64bit being speedier.

                    will be interesting to see all these users demanding a 64bit version bitching here again why there 4gb models are soooooo slow...

                    scnr
                    Norbert

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      x_X

                      I'm falling into the same old trap...

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • bmikeB Offline
                        bmike
                        last edited by

                        the icons that follow my cursor around sometimes get sticky.
                        orbit seems to do it most often.
                        when i spacebar back to select... i'll be stuck with orbit.
                        have to manually go up and hit the icon, and then things switch over.

                        latest SU pro 2013 update, latest and greatest mac osx.

                        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                        • M Offline
                          Mra
                          last edited by

                          @thomthom said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Anyone else experience crashes with "X-ray mode on" with quadros?

                          I got a Quadro 3800FX - no issues here. Driver version: 311.50.

                          Do you have issues on all models? And it doesn't crash is you disable Hardware Acceleration? What about plugins - does it crash when plugins are disabled?

                          It only happens like 30% of the time on a particularly heavy model, I'm running a Quadro 2000 with 311.50.

                          Thanks though, I think it must be this particular model.

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                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                            Mike Amos
                            last edited by

                            I still find that changing tools is a pita, I have to select the new tool multiple times and am forever getting caught out when the tool STILL does not change over, then another crash because the program cannot deal with multiple tool requests.

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @mike amos said:

                              I still find that changing tools is a pita, I have to select the new tool multiple times and am forever getting caught out when the tool STILL does not change over, then another crash because the program cannot deal with multiple tool requests.

                              ?
                              Never experienced that. Does it also occur when plugins are disabled?

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                on the rhino or sketchup thing..

                                i'm in the middle of a concrete project right now.. i like to use software to get cutlists to the crew.

                                super offtopic but..

                                here's some time lapse footage of the stuff i posted on page9 being built..

                                dotdotdot

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                                • Mike AmosM Offline
                                  Mike Amos
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                                  @thomthom said:

                                  @mike amos said:

                                  I still find that changing tools is a pita, I have to select the new tool multiple times and am forever getting caught out when the tool STILL does not change over, then another crash because the program cannot deal with multiple tool requests.

                                  ?
                                  Never experienced that. Does it also occur when plugins are disabled?

                                  Yes, it does at that. Corrupt install or just plain ol' pita from the random world that is sketchup (OR ANY OTHER SOFTWARE BEFORE SOMEONE MENTIONS IT).

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    You experience this in other applications as well?

                                    Any chance you use a wireless mouse? Checked if it needs new batteries?

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • Mike AmosM Offline
                                      Mike Amos
                                      last edited by

                                      No problem with other programs, no wireless mouse, no difference with fresh installs either.

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                                      • C Offline
                                        congellous
                                        last edited by

                                        I was ecstatic with the ease of installing plug ins, new computer, new sketchup pro 2013 and then I tried to use it - Bezier tools Fredo = bug splat over and over, Extrusion tools bug splat, I haven't been able to do a serious project on it. Any advice ?

                                        I'm on OSX 10.8.4, Sk2013

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          I was ecstatic with the ease of installing plug ins, new computer, new sketchup pro 2013 and then I tried to use it - Bezier tools Fredo = bug splat over and over, Extrusion tools bug splat, I haven't been able to do a serious project on it. Any advice ?

                                          I'm on OSX 10.8.4, Sk2013
                                          Have you reinstalled fresh versions of the tools ?
                                          Some were specifically reworked to be compatible with v2013. Also ensure you have the latest Libs for both Fredo and Thomthom's tools.
                                          What is your plugins folder path ?

                                          Do you also have Vray beta installed - this tool is known to cause splats when other legit tools do something that its flaky observers take exception to... They are working on a fix... meanwhile you don't need a renderer while you are modeling, so disable it until you need it...

                                          TIG

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                                          • sketch3d.deS Offline
                                            sketch3d.de
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Any advice ?

                                            yes, don't copy the ol' stuff from your SU8 plugin folder to SU13 but install the recent versions of the plugins either from inside SU ("Window > Extension Warehouse") resp. download the RBZ/ZIPs from here maybe by using the SketchUCation Plugin Store.

                                            SU13 Plugin Folder OSX:

                                            Mac HD > Users > [Username] > Library > Application Support > SketchUp 2013 > SketchUp > Plugins
                                            

                                            hth,
                                            Norbert

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