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    timurglobal
    last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 06:19

    @tyler miller said:

    Hey Tim -

    Any chance that you have unicode characters in your username on the machine? We just found a bug yesterday where are xml parser is choking on file paths with unicode characters. We're working on a fix now.

    -Tyler

    I'm working on laptop, name is Tim-PC. Might dash be a problem???

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      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 09:42

      Shouldn't be a problem, provided it's a standard ASCII character.
      By Unicode he means accented letters, foreign characters etc
      Using any of the possible characters from the normal full ASCII set shouldn't cause any issues...

      Have you really got FULL permissions for all of the relevant subfolders ?

      Have you got any odd custom LO templates loading ?

      Have you tried running a 'Repair' and after that fails [!] a 'Reinstall' ?
      Any of your 'custom files' [Plugins etc] should NOT be affected these changes...

      TIG

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        timurglobal
        last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 10:50

        Just checked, full permiion whenever possible.

        Did the repair and reinstall thing, pretty much a few times.

        About custom templates, however, I do remember that in my last working session (on SU8) I've created a custom frame for A1 (just tweaked already existed one, added logo and stuff) If this affects LO, please, explain how to deal with it, I can delete this template, but not sure where to look for them.

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          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 10:54

          @timurglobal said:

          Just checked, full permiion whenever possible.

          Did the repair and reinstall thing, pretty much a few times.

          About custom templates, however, I do remember that in my last working session (on SU8) I've created a custom frame for A1 (just tweaked already existed one, added logo and stuff) If this affects LO, please, explain how to deal with it, I can delete this template, but not sure where to look for them.

          I just answered that in another thread... http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=481944#p481944

          In case it's somehow got corrupted I suggest you delete it and retry opening LO...
          Clearly something is breaking LO as it starts and since it will 'load' the templates and your custom ones it seems like a possible suspect ?
          Your AppData tree might be hidden from you, so you might have to change your Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Options... to view hidden files/folders...

          TIG

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            timurglobal
            last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:13

            Now it is getting really weird. First, there is no custom templates to cause the crash, however there are several files like preferences.xml and other xmls. When I delete them LO starts just fine and after the session creates them again, which makes it start crashing again. Have some guesses but don't know how to fix it, is it my system? I snapped it on screen but can't upload the image here.

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              timurglobal
              last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:17

              @timurglobal said:

              Now it is getting really weird...

              When delete only preferences.xml LO works, other xmls don't affect LO crashes, only the preferences.xml... Weird

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                Dave R
                last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:17

                Why can't you upload the image?

                Click on Upload attachment and upload it.

                upload.png

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                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:27

                  C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2013\LayOut
                  Contains several user specific 'preference-type' files that are used at the startup of LO ? [plo/xml etc]
                  These can all be deleted because they are recreated using the LO 'defaults' for any new users or when they are just 'missing'...

                  But something about your system causes some of these default files to get re-set inappropriately πŸ˜•
                  Baffled. 😞

                  Incidentally, to get all of the post options like attachments click on the long-form 'post a reply' rather than the 'quick-reply' ??

                  TIG

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                    timurglobal
                    last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:38

                    I'm sorry guys, my bad, simply missed the button, a bit exited here, hehe πŸŽ‰ , will finish my project in time, wohoo


                    WTF.PNG

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:46

                      πŸ’­
                      Now I see you are 'RUssian'...
                      Are you sure there are no special characters in any of your Layout filepaths.
                      If your user-name etc, or even a custom template or scrapbook file-name contains some Cyrillic characters that could break things... πŸ˜•

                      TIG

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                        timurglobal
                        last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 11:54

                        @tig said:

                        :idea:
                        Now I see you are 'RUssian'...
                        Are you sure there are no special characters in any of your Layout filepaths.
                        If your user-name etc, or even a custom template or scrapbook file-name contains some Cyrillic characters that could break things... πŸ˜•

                        Hehe, naah, I'm familiar with the problem you are referring to, I use latin in these situations. But double checking is always a good idea.

                        Look at the size of the prefs.xml, 0 bytes? It creates a blank file all the time.

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                          timurglobal
                          last edited by 22 Jun 2013, 23:51

                          Guess the problem has kinda resolved itself, however, great thanks for everyone who replied, that really helped, thank you guys.

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                            adelgark
                            last edited by 13 Jul 2013, 03:49

                            Hi timurglobal, I got the same problem as you. LO 2013 works fine as long as these files are deleted but they appear every time you close the software and the bug splat screen shows up again. How do you keep these files from appearing again?

                            Thanks!!!

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                              Duqu
                              last edited by 19 Jul 2013, 20:17

                              I am having this problem as well. Is it possible to keep these files from popping up again after I have deleted them?

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                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by 20 Jul 2013, 16:12

                                Ensure your user-name has no non-ASCII characters in it - i.e. no accented letters etc. πŸ˜•

                                TIG

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                                  La DuF
                                  last edited by 21 Jul 2013, 11:30

                                  Hello, Tig !!

                                  @tig said:

                                  Ensure your user-name has no non-ASCII characters in it - i.e. no accented letters etc. πŸ˜•

                                  Mine has (FranΓ§ois) and this cannot be changed...

                                  Anything else I could try ?

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                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by 21 Jul 2013, 11:36

                                    That is probably it ! πŸ˜•
                                    Not even to Francois ?
                                    Can't it be changed in the Users control-panel by someone with admin-powers ?

                                    This will also cause issues with Ruby scripts etc that use your user-path to save temp files etc...

                                    TIG

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                                      rogadude
                                      last edited by 23 Aug 2013, 18:53

                                      I just figured out you have to disable your anivirus software while you use Layout 2013

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                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by 23 Aug 2013, 19:47

                                        Really? I don't have to do that with my AV software. Never have.

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                                          La DuF
                                          last edited by 23 Aug 2013, 19:49

                                          @dave r said:

                                          Really? I don't have to do that with my AV software. Never have.

                                          Me neither. Never have. And never will...

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