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    • P Offline
      Panga
      last edited by

      I know, I know...This has been discussed many times here on sketchucation forums, and on others forums...but today I'm really piss...off with those toolbars that are not able to stay in place...what the point to have a "pro" software if the UI is from stoneage...Even the poorest software has toolbars that stays in place...

      So just a word to sketchup developement team : Is it that difficult to fix this bug, you've made lately some maintenance release, fine ! But I think that this elementary bug, far from being under a licence problem like the shadow bug, can be resolve !! Am I wrong ?

      This bug was already there with @Last, and after many years...nothing is done !!?? What do we have to do as users in order that you can understand that !!!

      Really sorry guys, if I write this without any moderation, but sometimes I think we've to remind essential things that way.

      Regards.

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @panga said:

        Really sorry guys, if I write this without any moderation

        I'd say that post was very moderate compared to the likes before it. πŸ˜„

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Hehe... I have already forgotten what messed up toolbars like. I have none docked and have an only, custom toolbar for all my SU buttons.


          su-toolbar.png

          Gai...

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            Panga
            last edited by

            @thomthom said:

            @panga said:

            Really sorry guys, if I write this without any moderation

            I'd say that post was very moderate compared to the likes before it. πŸ˜„

            Did not wanted to be censured...

            Edit : And it's hard to express my anger in english...

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @gaieus said:

              Hehe... I have already forgotten what messed up toolbars like. I have none docked and have an only, custom toolbar for all my SU buttons.

              I have been wondering if making a webdialog with buttons would be an option. Then there's this guy who somehow managed to merge the SU tool windows into the SU viewport frame - I wonder if he could do the same with a webdialoge...

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • R Offline
                remus
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                I think everyone needs a good toolbar rant once in a while πŸ˜›

                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  @remus said:

                  I think everyone needs a good toolbar rant once in a while πŸ˜›

                  Yup - otherwise your blood-veins will just implode.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    Panga
                    last edited by

                    Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !! And after that, I'll send the bill to Google...

                    Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      @panga said:

                      Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !!

                      There's been a great number of brave attempts... with no real success...

                      @panga said:

                      Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??

                      No.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        Panga
                        last edited by

                        I don't know if this solution as already been suggested, but would it be possible ?

                        toolbarstest.JPG

                        This way we could have just a few toolbars...

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          The only control we have over toolbars from the API is adding buttons and hide/show the toolbars. That's it. 😞

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • P Offline
                            Panga
                            last edited by

                            And could it be done using a webdialog ?

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              Not flyouts.
                              With webdialogs we can create normal non-flyout menus, but you got this large window frame as well. that's why I was interseted in thsi guy that managed to dock SU's toolwindows to SU's viewport.

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • D Offline
                                dedmin
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                                Better with a second monitor

                                220.tmp.jpg

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                                • alexschreyerA Offline
                                  alexschreyer Extension Creator
                                  last edited by

                                  From my days programming with Delphi, I remember that for a developer it is possible to just buy a new "toolbar system" and add it to the code. It is not too hard to do this since many components are out there. There is no real need to go with the default UI elements.

                                  And although I still haven't warmed up to the Office-ribbon in Revit, I would not mind the ribbon in SU if it kept everything in place.

                                  Cheers,
                                  Alex

                                  Author of "Architectural Design with SketchUp":
                                  http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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                                  • B Offline
                                    bytor
                                    last edited by

                                    Alex,

                                    I know what you mean about the Revit Ribbons - but when you get used to where everything is (I still have to look for 4 or 5 items I commonly use) it becomes pretty productive. Something similar would be nice for SU - but I doubt you will see Google adopt such a MS flavor. I have to instruct and often support users @ work on SU, and it drives me crazy looking for toolbars in their perosnalized layouts.

                                    Dean

                                    Find the Cost of Freedom.....

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                                      Panga
                                      last edited by

                                      Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ? I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts...And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        @panga said:

                                        Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ?

                                        A Webdialog is just an HTML document. So yes.

                                        @panga said:

                                        I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts

                                        You won't be able to make flyouts that goes outside the webdialog window.

                                        @panga said:

                                        And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?

                                        I take it you mean the window frame? That can't be done. 😞

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          Panga
                                          last edited by

                                          Damn...everything is against us... πŸ˜›

                                          EDIT : The better alternative I see, is to do the same thing that Fredo6 did with Tools on surface plugin where a "toolbar" appears at the top of main window (where we draw) with all the tools and options of the plugins...

                                          This way, we could regroup tools and plugin by categories in order to have less toolbars displayed in SU.

                                          EDIT : Or maybe doing something like in Blender, some contextual menu giving access to everything...but all those things should be develop by google again...

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                                          • ken28875K Offline
                                            ken28875
                                            last edited by

                                            I agree with Panga. We need to find a way to have the plugins toolbars stay in place.

                                            I used a lot of plugins for my work everyday and I keep on adding new ones. So it is very frustrating an annoying to have to put them back in order every time a new plugin is added that messes everything up.

                                            Another thing too, is the toolbars will go crazy after we minimize the windows and come back to full size.

                                            Hopefully someone will find a fix to these issues.

                                            Thanks and have a terrific day!

                                            _KN

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