Damn toolbars...

Panga

@panga said:

Really sorry guys, if I write this without any moderation

I'd say that post was very moderate compared to the likes before it.

Did not wanted to be censured...

Edit : And it's hard to express my anger in english...

thomthom

@gaieus said:

Hehe... I have already forgotten what messed up toolbars like. I have none docked and have an only, custom toolbar for all my SU buttons.

I have been wondering if making a webdialog with buttons would be an option. Then there's this guy who somehow managed to merge the SU tool windows into the SU viewport frame - I wonder if he could do the same with a webdialoge...

remus

I think everyone needs a good toolbar rant once in a while

thomthom

@remus said:

I think everyone needs a good toolbar rant once in a while

Yup - otherwise your blood-veins will just implode.

Panga

Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !! And after that, I'll send the bill to Google...

Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??

thomthom

@panga said:

Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !!

There's been a great number of brave attempts... with no real success...

@panga said:

Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??

No.

Panga

I don't know if this solution as already been suggested, but would it be possible ?

This way we could have just a few toolbars...

thomthom

The only control we have over toolbars from the API is adding buttons and hide/show the toolbars. That's it.

Panga

And could it be done using a webdialog ?

thomthom

Not flyouts.
With webdialogs we can create normal non-flyout menus, but you got this large window frame as well. that's why I was interseted in thsi guy that managed to dock SU's toolwindows to SU's viewport.

dedmin

Better with a second monitor

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alexschreyer

From my days programming with Delphi, I remember that for a developer it is possible to just buy a new "toolbar system" and add it to the code. It is not too hard to do this since many components are out there. There is no real need to go with the default UI elements.

And although I still haven't warmed up to the Office-ribbon in Revit, I would not mind the ribbon in SU if it kept everything in place.

Cheers,
Alex

bytor

Alex,

I know what you mean about the Revit Ribbons - but when you get used to where everything is (I still have to look for 4 or 5 items I commonly use) it becomes pretty productive. Something similar would be nice for SU - but I doubt you will see Google adopt such a MS flavor. I have to instruct and often support users @ work on SU, and it drives me crazy looking for toolbars in their perosnalized layouts.

Dean

Panga

Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ? I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts...And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?

thomthom

@panga said:

Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ?

A Webdialog is just an HTML document. So yes.

@panga said:

I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts

You won't be able to make flyouts that goes outside the webdialog window.

@panga said:

And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?

I take it you mean the window frame? That can't be done.

Panga

Damn...everything is against us...

EDIT : The better alternative I see, is to do the same thing that Fredo6 did with Tools on surface plugin where a "toolbar" appears at the top of main window (where we draw) with all the tools and options of the plugins...

This way, we could regroup tools and plugin by categories in order to have less toolbars displayed in SU.

EDIT : Or maybe doing something like in Blender, some contextual menu giving access to everything...but all those things should be develop by google again...

ken28875

I agree with Panga. We need to find a way to have the plugins toolbars stay in place.

I used a lot of plugins for my work everyday and I keep on adding new ones. So it is very frustrating an annoying to have to put them back in order every time a new plugin is added that messes everything up.

Another thing too, is the toolbars will go crazy after we minimize the windows and come back to full size.

Hopefully someone will find a fix to these issues.

Thanks and have a terrific day!

_KN