Damn toolbars...
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@remus said:
I think everyone needs a good toolbar rant once in a while
Yup - otherwise your blood-veins will just implode.
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Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !! And after that, I'll send the bill to Google...
Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??
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I don't know if this solution as already been suggested, but would it be possible ?
This way we could have just a few toolbars...
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The only control we have over toolbars from the API is adding buttons and hide/show the toolbars. That's it.
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And could it be done using a webdialog ?
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Not flyouts.
With webdialogs we can create normal non-flyout menus, but you got this large window frame as well. that's why I was interseted in thsi guy that managed to dock SU's toolwindows to SU's viewport. -
Better with a second monitor
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From my days programming with Delphi, I remember that for a developer it is possible to just buy a new "toolbar system" and add it to the code. It is not too hard to do this since many components are out there. There is no real need to go with the default UI elements.
And although I still haven't warmed up to the Office-ribbon in Revit, I would not mind the ribbon in SU if it kept everything in place.
Cheers,
Alex -
Alex,
I know what you mean about the Revit Ribbons - but when you get used to where everything is (I still have to look for 4 or 5 items I commonly use) it becomes pretty productive. Something similar would be nice for SU - but I doubt you will see Google adopt such a MS flavor. I have to instruct and often support users @ work on SU, and it drives me crazy looking for toolbars in their perosnalized layouts.
Dean
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Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ? I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts...And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?
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@panga said:
Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ?
A Webdialog is just an HTML document. So yes.
@panga said:
I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts
You won't be able to make flyouts that goes outside the webdialog window.
@panga said:
And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?
I take it you mean the window frame? That can't be done.
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Damn...everything is against us...
EDIT : The better alternative I see, is to do the same thing that Fredo6 did with Tools on surface plugin where a "toolbar" appears at the top of main window (where we draw) with all the tools and options of the plugins...
This way, we could regroup tools and plugin by categories in order to have less toolbars displayed in SU.
EDIT : Or maybe doing something like in Blender, some contextual menu giving access to everything...but all those things should be develop by google again...
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I agree with Panga. We need to find a way to have the plugins toolbars stay in place.
I used a lot of plugins for my work everyday and I keep on adding new ones. So it is very frustrating an annoying to have to put them back in order every time a new plugin is added that messes everything up.
Another thing too, is the toolbars will go crazy after we minimize the windows and come back to full size.
Hopefully someone will find a fix to these issues.
Thanks and have a terrific day!
_KN
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Yikes, tooo much, my eyes hurt.
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how hard would it be to create a ruby that creates a single floating toolbar containing all the tools installed in one panel?
install a new ruby, run the panel ruby to add the new tool... the panel floating so there's no workspace muckup..
just pulling this outta the air so don't take to seriously if it's a bad idea
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Or have all toolbars hidden hitting f11 shows them and hides them again?
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@khai said:
how hard would it be to create a ruby that creates a single floating toolbar containing all the tools installed in one panel?
install a new ruby, run the panel ruby to add the new tool... the panel floating so there's no workspace muckup..
just pulling this outta the air so don't take to seriously if it's a bad idea
I think that one goes in the 'nice in theory but doesnt work in practice' pile. The major flaw that comes to mind is scrambled ruby scripts which cant be modified in any way unless you can get hold of the original file, but then that rather defeats the point of scrambling it.
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I'm becoming crazy...after three days of work under SU, I'm afraid of minimizing any window...whatever the program I'm using, I'm juste thinking in my head "Don't do that you idiot !! You'll have to reorganize all your toolbars !!"...but then I realize that I'm not in SU and I can breathe freely...please Google...do something for me, I'm sick !!
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It's certainly possible to replace most toolbars with a single window. I have taken to using a horrible, hacked-up, hand-coded WebDialog to replace all my Toolbars.
I think a4chitect's Launchit has a lot of potential.
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