@hornoxx said: :thumb: these modeling sheets(?) do have a aesthetics of their own somehow Thanks for showing this Yes. they do. You're quite welcome.

It video demonstrate that endline can be different in same dimension. @richard said: to adjust arrow size as you are trying, select the horizontal line! I dont want change arrow size. I was demonstrate to other how to reduce size of endline. In my project i use predrfined dimension style. And copy it from scrapbooks window [image: h_1448934277_5087367_fffcaefa62.jpeg]

Oh! I forgot. You need to stand on one foot with your other foot behind your head and your tongue touching your nose.

Now there's a glimmer of understanding. Yes, try typing in the font size.

...great! simply using the whole already done work of Project1 again for Project2 by relinking. This LO thing seems to function similar to Adobe InDesign. Tank you for first aid today!

@utiler said: I agree, it surely does.... Yeah with the work I do in Layout with logos it's a desperately missed function! I seriously mean missed.

@nujak said: Thank you Dave for the quick response. I figured out the problem. It turns out the linetype scale ( @2X) was too small to see on the pdf unless zoomed in really far---despite it looking correct in Layout. I had to crank it up to 10X to get to read ok in the PDF. The really issue seems to be that the linetype scale changes as you zoom in and out in Layout. That's a real bummer. It makes it difficult to work with linetypes in Layout. Difficult to get a sense of the graphic representation of a page without a lot of trial and error. I guess I should post more. I've been watching SketchUcation for many years. Thanks again! I have the same issue. Wonder if it is related to units. I'm in metric. What I do is that I have a bunch of linetypes already tested for the effect I want and I copy their properties around.

Tried this way before, but it is a hard work to change all lines to white in all pages.

Thank you Dave R.

@richard said: @jql said: Well, that could be drawn inside sketchup even faster... And then you could convert that into a 3D model and render in Thea in an IBL background in the same day. Mate, you may have missed the key words "design sketch". I didn't miss them! My design sketches are done on site, on meetings and on paper. I don't know how much time I take to develop them. Then, what you do call design sketches I do not have. I replace that by designing a model as my first plans are also related with space studies, not floor plans alone alone. My space studies quickly evolve to models and my models are quickly rendered. I might still be talking about design sketches but inside Sketchup. They're not a morning's work, but a day's work. From there a quick presentation emerges. A 3D one with LO plans and some renders. The main idea is there but also the main model. As the idea evolves, the model evolves. There's also optimization there's also quick work, but there is not a 2D frame of mind. There's always a 3D take on things and a quick 2D LO output. On some stages, not even the 2D output is needed as we are talking on space changes, nor floor plan, LO changes. At least not in a fundamental way.

Oops Sorry. I wasn't seeing the forum heading. I just looked a "New Posts"!

Hi, since you run layout locally, you should ask your sys-admin to see if something went wrong with rights/rules for user/groups on disk/folder/subfolder on server where your files are stored.

Thank you Ansi. BullZip and the import text as curves worked well.

@richard said: Dave, I'm still using a rather old version so haven't tried that option. Ah, yes. Time to upgrade. [image: Ubli_text.gif] Click on the picture.

Sorry I missed this post. Yes a double thanks from me. Walter

PM your email address and I send you a SU file with hundreds! You can then just drag to LO and vectorise!

Thanks Marc, That saves me a headache!

I've never thought of you like that before Rich, but if it's an invitation?

Gracious that's helpful, Box. As a former user getting back in the saddle, I'm amazed at all the useless lines I drew and erased to dimension to lines (not points). The tip should be a part of the SU docs and instruction.

@otb designworks said: I just tried the same process with Layout 14 and it is the same. Are you perhaps remembering dimensioning in Sketchup and displaying in Layout? Because dimensions do update with geometry in Sketchup. I am pretty sure layout has never worked like Sketchup does with respect to dimensioning. It was certainly never a deal breaker for me,, but it definitely and source of frustration, inefficiency, and also greatly increases the likelihood of sending a drawing out with an incorrect dimension. I have a very intense crosscheck protocol that I use with my drawings to help ensure that things like that don't slip through Chuck, I emailed Matt Donley who wrote "Sketchup to Layout," (which I bought) and he said he also thought the dimensions "attempted to stay attached" in previous LO versions. But do not do so currently. In my work, this makes LO substantially slower for me to use than AC. I guess I'll be sticking with AC.