David, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Some mind candy for the day. Peter

Well, I have just changed mine back.

@marked001 said: welcome back, tina! @krisidious said: Good to see you Tinanne... Hey guys!

this has been a rumor for quite a few years (though probably a bit more than a rumor) I hope when the day comes, there will be some sort of stackable Mac mini setup so you can still sort of have a box for multiple HDs.. + options for powerful graphics/CPUs etc. I doubt apple will fully ignore their pro users.. but, getting away from a tower=pro mindset might not be a bad thing at all. we'll see.

It'll work with Firefox too; but you need to use the Google search bar or be on the iGoogle page. Askew works the same as Tilt.

Moving

@tig said: Dogs like to have masters. Cats like to have servants. Well TIG, that give new meaning to the phase, "The country is going to the dogs". Darn you have a way of making every thing so clear, a Renascence man. Ken

Heres a test clip i put together to demo cartoon animation in sketchup http://youtu.be/dJWW0pPu8VA

There was a thread a few months ago in which a load of us posted screenshots of our workspace and also the Plugins folder. Of course, some users find some plugins more useful than others, but if you study the various postings it ought to give you a rough straw-poll of which plugins prove to be generally the most useful. One or two people seem to have gone completely overboard with the number they use, but many of us already realised...like yourself...that more is not necessarily better.

@tobobo said: Well done to everybody that voted for Auotcad . I had to download 3 patches for it too work properly Only 3 ? That's better than the PC version

This changes everything

Tattoo maybe [image: pt71_Rule.jpg]

Carbon sequestration systems

uhhh - that's "Lara" Croft - best to get the important things right eh....? cheers rabbit

It's been around for a while: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/1/17/from-sweden-next-gen2c-nsa-like-3d-maps-thatll-knock-your-socks-off.aspx The issue will only be: when the world will be scanned with this advanced - but obviously expensive - method? We keep seeing some of those amazing examples but it will be something like Street View probably: the "interesting" or "important" things will soon be available - and nothing else.

Whole experiment is interesting. I do like the Locking. It is amazing how precisely the disks locks in its position! p.s. I am sorry for the doubled post. Haven't noticed former. Mods please merge both.

Here's a quick example of a projectedges3plane tool <span class="syntaxdefault"></span><span class="syntaxkeyword">require&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'sketchup.rb'<br /></span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">begin<br />TIG&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">c</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">2011<br /></span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">end<br />module&nbsp;TIG<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">menu</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">"Camera"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">add_item</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">"TIG.projectedges2plane"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){</span><span class="syntaxdefault">self</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">projectedges2plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">()}</span><span class="syntaxdefault">unless&nbsp;file_loaded</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">basename</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">__FILE__</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">))<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">file_loaded</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">basename</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">__FILE__</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">))<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">def&nbsp;self</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">projectedges2plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">()<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">model</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Sketchup</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">active_model<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">model</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">active_entities<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;view</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">model</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">active_view<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;cam</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">view</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">camera<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;eye</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">cam</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">eye<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;tar</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">cam</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">target<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dir</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">cam</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">direction<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ss</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">model</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">selection<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;es</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=[]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ss</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">es&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><<&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.class==</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Sketchup</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Edge</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">}<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">not&nbsp;ss</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">messagebox</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">"No&nbsp;Edges&nbsp;in&nbsp;Selection!"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;return&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">nil<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;end<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;model</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">start_operation</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">"TIG.projectedges2plane"</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">group</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">add_group<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;group</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">name</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxstring">"TIG.projectedges2plane"<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">gents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">group</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">entities<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pp</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">eye</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">offset</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dir</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">eye</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">distance</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">tar</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)/</span><span class="syntaxdefault">2</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">pp</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">dir</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">es</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ps</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">start</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">position<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;vs</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ps</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">vector_to</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">eye</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ls</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ps</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">vs</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">pps</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Geom</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">intersect_line_plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ls</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">pe</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">end</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">position<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ve</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">pe</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">vector_to</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">eye</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">le</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">pe</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ve</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ppe</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Geom</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">intersect_line_plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">le</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">plane</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">gents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">add_line</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">pps</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ppe</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">t0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Geom</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Transformation</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.new()<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">gents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">intersect_with</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">true</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">t0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">gents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">t0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">true</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">gents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">to_a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">model</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">commit_operation<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;end<br />end</span> It places a plane half way between the camera eye and target, it then projects the vertices of all selected edges onto that plane as a flat 2d grouped set of edges; to get the plane vertical use camera>2pt_perspective. Copy/paste code into a file called 'TIG-projectedges2plane.rb' in the Plugins folder it appears as an item in the Camera menu.[image: 4fxB_Capture.PNG][image: 3ubP_Capture1.PNG][image: UH4g_Capture2.PNG][image: ZM08_Capture3.PNG]

Now ask which app crashes your Mac?

Dang, I can't juggle or solve a rubik's cube.

Ohhhhhh my head. I'm being so productive at work (sarcasm) 2day hangover