Damnit 4get to attach image here goes [tom yong] [image: dENA_test9.jpg]

Modelhead, Thanks for the positive feedback. It always helps! There are a bunch of issues around selling images of SketchUp models. Some of these are technical, like finding a good way to print models, but most have to do with the nature of art itself and the market for art. At the inexpensive end of this practice of hanging images on walls, there is the poster market. People purchasing posters don't really care that a poster is mass produced. Low price is crucial. At the expensive end of the art market exclusivity is key and price doesn't seem to be much of a factor. In the middle -primarily lithographs and the like- scarcity is artificially created by the artist destroying the plates after a certain quantity of numbered prints are produced. I think something similar will be necessary for SketchUp art (digital art in general) if we want to sell our work outside the poster market. One interesting possibility is to sell a certain number of unique (numbered) views into a model and then destroy the model. The same practice could apply to walkthroughs of models. I'd love to hear what others have to think about this issue. Fred

jb, been watching this thread with great interest (but haven't had time to play I did download VP5 a few minutes ago (longer I guess since I used up my free trial already) and really like what it does...might just buy it and an edger/outliner I've had my eyes on. Thanks and more please, Tom.

Move the jaggy slider and they will be even better.

Yea, good ole' Indiana. You can't buy a bottle of wine on Sunday, but you can get enough fireworks to level a city 24/7. I'm glad they were helpful.

Jeff, this is really great! I have a son is really loves skateboarding. Might be fun to see what happens in SketchyPhysics?

Hmmmmm...so you actually "painted" the painting. (No wonder it looks so good! :`) Thanks a bunch for the ideas now smolderin', Tom.

Eric, nice image...must be a fun project detailwise!

i thoght i saw something weird...where have the shadows gone!? would look a lot nicer with shadows, in my opinion. good refelction and stuff, though.

I don't think so Kris, that one star seems pretty bright to me, scary bright as a matter of fact. Cool idea though, getting to grips with night time renderings showing starlight.

One of my newest components is an entire photo studio. Not needing light stands or power cords is a real luxury. I just pop the fixture silo into the photo studio, adjust a few lights and we have an image ready for the catalog. Client saw the final product and his first comment was, "this looks so real maybe we should go back and add the weld beads." [image: A69a_blu_orng_silo_4.jpg]

Yep Anssi, you nailed that lamp shade. Nice image.

I understand the logic very well. I have experienced the lack of standards and the confusion its creates within operations and leaves certain individuals hung out to dry. If you install all three engines and train everyone equally on there functions then fine, but your not going to find a company that will take the time to implement that so they choose one.

Those are great! I especially like the Tron models. Fantastic.

Very nice, Kris. That movie really does explain it well. Posted by Lewis Wadsworth

Clay with color...I like it! Great modeling BTW.

I live in Ahwatukee between South Mtn. and the Tohono O'Odham people. Did you go to Cosanti in Scottsdale or Arcosanti up around Cottonwood? Solerie was one of Wrights students. One of those deals where you get to pay for the privelidge of pushing a wheelbarrow. I don't know what Soleri learned, but he did pick up on that little trick and his students pay to do his work as well. Nothing wrong with that, but I am not sure they reap any large benefits. Taliesin West is great, and I have visted Fallingwater, and there was was a FLW house in Virginia that I saw when I was stationed at the Pentagon. Some Army Lt. either lived there for free or a nominal fee. He did the up keep and visitors could come through during the day so he had to keep the place pristine. Sort of a caretaker vs rent deal.

Thanks, guys. The last image is indeed the best. "That image alone really sells Podium to me." Oooh, I like that.

Very cool Ross, but you say it's an old model; what is it a model of? I like what you did here regardless.

really good and true poit u have . btw kt is more easy to use and good result 4 me (and i guess other who r new in 3d rendering!) . thanx again Fletch