@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

At this we doesn't support sectionplanes nested into groups or components. But I'll report it as a feature request.

The Skalp Team.

Thanks
I really think that supporting what SU supports re nesting etc would make Skalp a lot more useful.

BTW, I just sent a bug report on this + another problem.
Looks like the email you supplied, support@skalp4sketchup.be , doesn't work?

  Recipient address; support@skalp4sketchup.be
>   Reason; Illegal host/domain name found

I tried support@skalp4sketchup.com now instead. So far I haven't received any error messages from there.

Regards

it is support@skalp4sketchup.com

@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

Indeed we support sectioning nested objects, but we doesn't support nested section planes. We will investigated if we can introduce this in a next version.

The Skalp Team

I really hope you'll do that

Re nested objects, as the attached image shows, Skalp does not fully respect "local" section planes neither? It shows how it does add slices to solid objects/groups which are not cut by the SketchUp Section plane tool. The section plane is placed inside a group consisting of all the walls and windows only.

At this we doesn't support sectionplanes nested into groups or components. But I'll report it as a feature request.

The Skalp Team.

@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

@bjornkn said:

I just bought it a little while ago, and it looks like it could be very useful.
However, it is pretty beta'ish at the moment, and I'm really looking forward to the next release, be it beta or not. I suppose it's not much point writing a beta/bug report now that it expires within a few days?

As it says that this current beta version expires 30 august, I hope there will be a new version available very soon?

Please always write beta/bug reports to support@skalp4sketchup.be. This is important info for us. There will be a new beta this week.

The Skalp Team.
I will do that after I get the new version, but currently I have to finish my current project.
One question though:
The manual says that Skalp supports nested groups/objects, but I can't really find if it is supposed to support "local sections"? That is one of the nice features of the SU sections that I can't get to work in Skalp.
One example:
I have a building with 4 floors, internal walls/doors and a lot of furniture.
The building has walls/windows etc as subgroups, and furniture are grouped for each floor.
Then it is all grouped into a single master group.

What I want is to cut down the walls so that the interior is shown, complete with furniture. I do not want to slice through the furniture here..
In SU I can apply a section to the external walls/windows only, or to the external/internal walls and windows, but leave all the furniture untouched. And I can apply sections to a single subobject far down the hierarchy, and to the entire scene, and have them all active at the same time.
Such behaviour seems currently to be impossible in Skalp?

The attachement shows 3 simultaneously active sections at different hierarchical levels.
Would this be possible in Skalp?

Indeed we support sectioning nested objects, but we doesn't support nested section planes. We will investigated if we can introduce this in a next version.

The Skalp Team

@utiler said:

Another question, I assume Skalp will only be viewed in Layout with either raster or hybrid mode; not vector. Is this correct?

If you like to see the textures, you should use raster or hybrid.
The patterns are raster in SketchUp and in Layout. Only when you use export to dxf, you get vector pattern hatches in autocad.

The Skalp Team.

@utiler said:

Hi Guys, just tried to import a CAD .lin file but I click on the link and nothing happens....

Any ideas?

What type of file do you try to load?
If you try to load pattern files, this should be a .pat file.

The Skalp Team

@bjornkn said:

I just bought it a little while ago, and it looks like it could be very useful.
However, it is pretty beta'ish at the moment, and I'm really looking forward to the next release, be it beta or not. I suppose it's not much point writing a beta/bug report now that it expires within a few days?

As it says that this current beta version expires 30 august, I hope there will be a new version available very soon?

Please always write beta/bug reports to support@skalp4sketchup.be. This is important info for us. There will be a new beta this week.

The Skalp Team.

@rfox said:

I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.

The problem was a know SketchUp problem regarding a dll conflict between Sketchup ruby standard library and zlib1.dll on your windows system. It toke us some time to figure this out because problems with SketchUp and/or the operating system aren't always easy to find and to solve because they have nothing to do with our code. In this case the problem was also not reproducible on our own windows system.

When we found the problem and the solution I've send you a mail about the solution like it was logged in the Sketchup beta forum. The solution had nothing to do with our code. Apparently you were not able to solve the problem yourself.

After your complain on sketchUcation we contacted you again to do a join.me session and solved your problem even it wasn't a Skalp problem at all. But we like to keep our customers happy. I hope you can now enjoy Skalp like it's meant to be.

The Skalp Team.

@garyion said:

My wish is for Sketchup is simple - to work like a typical CAD package.

Firstly to be able control Line Weights -
maybe like via layers or object properties like autocad
Black - 0.18mm
yellow - 0.35mm
Brown - 0.5
to create quick legible drawings.

Auto hatching when sectioning thru objects -
Trimble buy and integrate Skalp
to create quick legible drawings.

Auto Dimension - Similar to Autocad inventor
To auto dimension a plan or section in an architectural manner.
http://www.autodesk.co.uk/products/inventor/features/all/gallery-view
see - Manufacturing and design documentation video
to create quick legible drawings.

Trimble buy Skalp? I like the idea
I don't think that will happen soon. But I can tell you all other things are on our to do list. We work full-time on Skalp and it's our intension to make more of Skalp than just a section plugin. I can only ask you to support us and you won't regret it in the future.

@krisidious said:

It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.

Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?

Krisidious,

A Skalp sections are normal SketchUp faces, with normal SketchUp textures. When using the hidden line style everything show up white even the section.

But Skalp can do a lot more...

For making construction documents we can set the model white except the section. In the above picture are just a few options. All different options can be used together in the same model and on the same section, just different scenes so you can use them on one layout (see picture)

The Skalp Team.

@krisidious said:

Does Skalp need SketchUp 2014 to work or does it need Layout 2014? Could one use Skalp in SketchUp 2013 and then use Layout 2014 to make use of Skalp sections?

No we need SketchUp 2014 and if you like you can use Layout 2013.

The Skalp Team.

@jiminy-billy-bob said:

I guess it needs SU2014 for the new API methods regarding sections.

@unknownuser said:

New! - SectionPlane additions

Please see the new API docs for how to implement these classes and methods.
Added support for creating and activating SectionPlane entities.
New methods are:
Entities.add_section_plane
Entities.active_section_plane
Entities.active_section_plane=
SectionPlane.activate
SectionPlane.active?
Added EntitiesObserver.onActiveSectionPlaneChanged
RenderingOptions now exposes a new key 'DisplaySectionPlanes' that can be used to show or hide section planes. e.g Sketchup.active_model.rendering_options['DisplaySectionPlanes'] = false

This new features are feature which are implemented in SketchUp because we asked for them. But the most important reason why we only work on 2014 is ruby 2.0 and the use of the ruby standard library.

The Skalp Team.

@rfox said:

I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.

Can you give me your support case number. So I can look to it. I know we have some open cases regarding unicode problems (special characters in path names) and we are still looking what causes the problem windows?, ruby?, sketchup? or Skalp?

regards,

The Skalp Team.

@agrazdi said:

Does anybody know the difference between boths section plugins ??

Skalp Features:

Skalp S​ections

• Automatic hatch patterned cross sections.
• Live updates, all model changes are tracked on the fly.
• ​Use Styles to remap the look in each scene.
• Fully supports nested groups and components.
• Supports multiple drawing scales in one model.
• ​Neat user interface filled with relevant features.

Skalp Styles

• The same Section represented in multiple ways.
• Each Scene can have its own cross section style.
• Intuitive and powerful mapping queries.
• Assign by layer, material, hatching or tagging.
• Patterns adapt to the drawing scale.

Skalp Pattern Designer

• Make awesome tileable Pattern textures for your Skalp Sections.
• Texturize your model in a new creative way.
• Import a zillion standard CAD patterns.
• Build your own from scratch.
• ​Supports scales, transparency, colors & line widths.

Skalp Export

• Export to SketchUp Pro's LayOut. Persistent updates of Skalp sections in all scenes.
• Export to DXF includes real CAD hatch patterns.
• Batch export of scenes to DXF.

The Skalp Team

@bsfranza said:

hey guys - what about the demo?

i would love to try and see for myself how your product is keeping up=)

Demo's are coming. Have a little patience or just buy

@edson said:

skalp is a hugely useful plugin and is worth every cent you pay for it.

@otb designworks said:

Wow, this plugin looks excellentI do have a quick question about how Skalp works in layout, though, before I think about buying it.

For Skalp to be really useful for me, I would need it's sections to be recognized by the inference engine in Layout, so I could pull dimensions from the section cuts. I have been assuming that the Skalp sections don't work like that in Layout, but I didn't really start investigating this until yesterday and I couldn't find an answer on the website.

Could someone explain how these sections could be used in Layout, other than for just visualization?

Thanks!

Chuck,

The Skalp section is standard SketchUp geometry. Using the inference engine in Layout is no problem at all. I made a little video to illustrate.

The Skalp Team.

@krisidious said:

Skalp only works in 2014?

Yes Skalp only works in SketchUp 2014 Make or Pro.

@jiminy-billy-bob said:

@skalp said:

On special request a Video Tutorial about Skalp Pattern Layers (color by layer).

Skalp Pattern Layers uses an undocumented feature of Color by Layer in combination with the hidden line render mode to create an architectural section with everything white in the model except the section.

I see in your video that you add a bunch of layers. I guess you can get to high numbers of layers if you have a lot of different section patterns?

Maybe you could make your plugin work with Layers Panel, to automatically put all those layers in a layer group, and automatically collapse it so that they don't take much space in the dialog.
You can use LP's API for that : http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180%26amp;t=57777

Thank,

Sounds like a good idea and we will look at it.

The Skalp Team.

These 2 books as a good part about C-extensions:

http://media.pragprog.com/titles/ruby3/ext_ruby.pdf

302 Moved

(books.google.be)

@edson said:

@skalp said:

@edson said:

very good! I know this was explained in the user guide but seeing you do it completes the information.

if I may suggest another topic for a video, how about one on how to save skalp settings to a sketchup template?

regards.

Edson,

After you setup a full Skalp model you can delete all entities, except the section planes and save it in a standard sketchup template.

The Skalp Team.

so the template will have a couple of section planes that section nothing? like ghost section planes? how does one deal with those section planes in a new model?

Edson,

From the moment you model something and the section plane intersect with the new model it will section the model. You can easy activate the different sections from the dialog box even if they don't section elements.

The Skalp Team.

@edson said:

very good! I know this was explained in the user guide but seeing you do it completes the information.

if I may suggest another topic for a video, how about one on how to save skalp settings to a sketchup template?

regards.

Edson,

After you setup a full Skalp model you can delete all entities, except the section planes and save it in a standard sketchup template.

The Skalp Team.