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    • TommyKT Offline
      TommyK
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      I think there is a minor design flaw / bug with the Skalp sections planes. Skalp section planes contain visible edges around the material that it cuts through. This can be a pain in certain situations.

      In the example below, each wall on each floor is in its own group (to allow working on separate floors more easily), but the bottom and top faces of each group are hidden. Sketchup's native Section tool ignores hidden faces (doesn't create a thick line denoting a cut), but these hidden faces are picked up as Skalp leaves edges around its patterns.
      Screen Shot 2014-07-25 at 11.01.47.png

      I would think Skalp would better make all edges in its section planes hidden, and let Sketchup's native section tool create the visible lines.

      ... although that may cause problems with object snapping in Layout... I'm sure a solution can be found.

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      • SkalpS Offline
        Skalp
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        • SkalpS Offline
          Skalp
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          Tommy,

          For faster response please send feature requests, questions, bugs, ... directly to support@skalp4sketchup.com
          We will look into this problem.

          Regards,

          The Skalp Team

          Skalp
          http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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          • R Offline
            rfox
            last edited by

            I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.

            It's time to render....

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            • SkalpS Offline
              Skalp
              last edited by

              @rfox said:

              I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.

              Can you give me your support case number. So I can look to it. I know we have some open cases regarding unicode problems (special characters in path names) and we are still looking what causes the problem windows?, ruby?, sketchup? or Skalp?

              regards,

              The Skalp Team.

              Skalp
              http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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              • R Offline
                rfox
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                here it is : 451_ej9kg1g4mmq9s9c6

                It's time to render....

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                • KrisidiousK Offline
                  Krisidious
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                  Does Skalp need SketchUp 2014 to work or does it need Layout 2014? Could one use Skalp in SketchUp 2013 and then use Layout 2014 to make use of Skalp sections?

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                  • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                    jiminy-billy-bob
                    last edited by

                    I guess it needs SU2014 for the new API methods regarding sections.

                    @unknownuser said:

                    New! - SectionPlane additions

                    Please see the new API docs for how to implement these classes and methods.
                    Added support for creating and activating SectionPlane entities.
                    New methods are:
                    Entities.add_section_plane
                    Entities.active_section_plane
                    Entities.active_section_plane=
                    SectionPlane.activate
                    SectionPlane.active?
                    Added EntitiesObserver.onActiveSectionPlaneChanged
                    RenderingOptions now exposes a new key 'DisplaySectionPlanes' that can be used to show or hide section planes. e.g Sketchup.active_model.rendering_options['DisplaySectionPlanes'] = false

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                    • SkalpS Offline
                      Skalp
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                      @jiminy-billy-bob said:

                      I guess it needs SU2014 for the new API methods regarding sections.

                      @unknownuser said:

                      New! - SectionPlane additions

                      Please see the new API docs for how to implement these classes and methods.
                      Added support for creating and activating SectionPlane entities.
                      New methods are:
                      Entities.add_section_plane
                      Entities.active_section_plane
                      Entities.active_section_plane=
                      SectionPlane.activate
                      SectionPlane.active?
                      Added EntitiesObserver.onActiveSectionPlaneChanged
                      RenderingOptions now exposes a new key 'DisplaySectionPlanes' that can be used to show or hide section planes. e.g Sketchup.active_model.rendering_options['DisplaySectionPlanes'] = false

                      This new features are feature which are implemented in SketchUp because we asked for them. But the most important reason why we only work on 2014 is ruby 2.0 and the use of the ruby standard library.

                      The Skalp Team.

                      Skalp
                      http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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                      • SkalpS Offline
                        Skalp
                        last edited by

                        @krisidious said:

                        Does Skalp need SketchUp 2014 to work or does it need Layout 2014? Could one use Skalp in SketchUp 2013 and then use Layout 2014 to make use of Skalp sections?

                        No we need SketchUp 2014 and if you like you can use Layout 2013.

                        The Skalp Team.

                        Skalp
                        http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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                        • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                          jiminy-billy-bob
                          last edited by

                          @skalp said:

                          But the most important reason why we only work on 2014 is ruby 2.0 and the use of the ruby standard library.

                          Oh man, I know what you mean 😉

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                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                            Krisidious
                            last edited by

                            It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.

                            Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                              jiminy-billy-bob
                              last edited by

                              @krisidious said:

                              It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to...

                              Why is that?

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                              • SkalpS Offline
                                Skalp
                                last edited by

                                @krisidious said:

                                It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.

                                Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?

                                Krisidious,

                                A Skalp sections are normal SketchUp faces, with normal SketchUp textures. When using the hidden line style everything show up white even the section.

                                But Skalp can do a lot more...

                                Schermafbeelding 2014-08-21 om 16.19.04.jpg

                                For making construction documents we can set the model white except the section. In the above picture are just a few options. All different options can be used together in the same model and on the same section, just different scenes so you can use them on one layout (see picture)

                                The Skalp Team.

                                Skalp
                                http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  @jiminy-billy-bob said:

                                  @krisidious said:

                                  It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to...

                                  Why is that?

                                  • The cost...
                                  • I don't really see anything in SU2014 that makes me jump up and down and say Oh I need this. (except maybe Skalp now...)
                                  • The process of switching is rather arduous. have to reinstall everything and re-license all my paid plugins, redo all my templates, settings, toolbar locations, move all my materials, components, styles, scrapbooks, build new toolbars for Layout... blah blah blah.
                                  • I use a lot of older plugins that might not or probably won't work in 2014, like the SCF Toolbars.
                                  • I'm behind now and working every day with this installation and don't really have the down time to switch and get everything working.

                                  I know I need to... I'm lazy is the biggest reason.

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by

                                    @skalp said:

                                    @krisidious said:

                                    It's SU2014 I'm reluctant to upgrade to... Layout2014 has some features I'd like to have.

                                    Another question... I like to use a untextured/uncolored (hidden line) style for my Layout Viewports when doing construction docs. will these section materials still show up on hidden line styles?

                                    Krisidious,

                                    A Skalp sections are normal SketchUp faces, with normal SketchUp textures. When using the hidden line style everything show up white even the section.

                                    But Skalp can do a lot more...

                                    For making construction documents we can set the model white except the section. In the above picture are just a few options. All different options can be used together in the same model and on the same section, just different scenes so you can use them on one layout (see picture)

                                    The Skalp Team.

                                    Thanks... That is exactly what I wanted to hear.

                                    Currently... My process is.

                                    1. Section with Tig's section cut face.
                                    2. then I copy and paste the section into layout.
                                    3. scale it.
                                    4. place it over my scene view.
                                    5. then explode it.
                                    6. color it if I just want plain colors like black shaded walls.
                                    7. If I want materials I leave it as a scene and put it on a single layer and put the scene over the model scene.

                                    HUGE PAIN!

                                    Skalp would make it much easier.

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    • SkalpS Offline
                                      Skalp
                                      last edited by

                                      @rfox said:

                                      I was having an installation problem since the day i purchased, I use "regular" Windows 7 Ultimate. email the issue to them, got couple of feedbacks but it didn't seem help. I try to contact them several times....no respond.such a bad developer. at least they give me some good technical explanation regarding the issue.

                                      The problem was a know SketchUp problem regarding a dll conflict between Sketchup ruby standard library and zlib1.dll on your windows system. It toke us some time to figure this out because problems with SketchUp and/or the operating system aren't always easy to find and to solve because they have nothing to do with our code. In this case the problem was also not reproducible on our own windows system.

                                      When we found the problem and the solution I've send you a mail about the solution like it was logged in the Sketchup beta forum. The solution had nothing to do with our code. Apparently you were not able to solve the problem yourself.

                                      After your complain on sketchUcation we contacted you again to do a join.me session and solved your problem even it wasn't a Skalp problem at all. But we like to keep our customers happy. I hope you can now enjoy Skalp like it's meant to be.

                                      The Skalp Team.

                                      Skalp
                                      http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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