@earthmover said:

Good luck getting the project Paul. The renders should really be a good selling point for any client.

Thanks for your comments, I always look forward to hearing what you have to say.

@fymoro said:

Cool re-design and render images, congrats... A radically change of style...

Thank you very much. I have quietly watched your work on these and other forums and based on those observations your
comments carry weight.

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@solo said:

It was, I just wanted to make sure I had it straight.

I really like the flagstone floor of the old kitchen, anyway to incorporate it into new modern kitchen, or was the client adamant to get rid of it?

A must go. We do however use a reclamation service so the stone & wood will end up being used again.

@earthmover said:

Albeit, the brownish flagstone would not work with the B&W theme of the new kitchen. I'm also guessing the whole first floor is getting renovated, as the wood panel and flagged flooring theme seem to carry throughout. What is spec'd for the new flooring? In the render it is a bit too shiny to really tell. Other than the floor, the rest of the render looks very nice.

Yes, it is to be a whole house remodel. We are competing for the job, and the kitchen design and rendering were used as an example of where we would go if we were
to be awarded the job. There will be much further design If....When!...we get the contract.

The floor is very shiny concrete tiles. Don't take it too literally, I was just shooting for shiny & grey.

@unknownuser said:

Wow! Those are some great pictures of 1970s "high style".
The new concepts look great. Really brightens the place up.

Thanks! You know, I was not sure what to call the existing style, but 1970s High Style fits perfectly.

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Sorry, thought is was self explanatory.

pmolson's HOMES
(Above is a link to other pmolson homes)

These images were used to show a potential client
what their kitchen could look like. We presented
this past Friday. It went well. We should find out
shortly if they will be using us to do this project for them.

These are works in progress as far as I am concerned because I was not able to spend
more time refining them and working out the lighting issues.

The bottom line though is that they really seemed to like the design and were a bit wow'd
by the renderings.

I hope to have time to refine these images.

Comments and criticism welcome.
Su 8 pro - Podium v2 - Photoshop elements 7

Thanks

Paul

michaliszissiou,

Sorry if I come off argumentative, I don't mean to.
Sometimes in trying to explain myself I can forget to include pleasantries.

I will be looking at the overlay techniques and will post the results.

The down sized posted images are 1100 X 577 - 96 dpi

original images were 3850 X2152 - 72 dpi

@michaliszissiou said:

To use it as a texture filter over a nice already render, this I don't understand. Whatever a client says. Give them a vision, don't listen to them. That's why they pay, even they don't realize it.

michaliszissiou,
I agree to a certain extent.
The real world design build industry has some very real limits to
artistic expression. $$$$! A photo-realistic image is wonderful and compelling, but can also
scare off clients by being too real. They can sometimes come away feeling as if there is no room for
change. The water color filtered or pencil sketch filtered images can create a feeling of a work
in progress with enough reality mixed in to help nail down concepts without limiting creativity.

The added bonus of this approach is that one can do a quick not perfect render, slap some background
and foreground clutter in with pp, and hit it with fotosketcher and have an image that feels architectural,
artistic, & invoice worthy without spending time most clients are unwilling to pay for.

Sorry this is not art, its work & it works. Having said that, I still want to do the nicest work I can do
within the limitations of what I can charge for.

Thanks for the direction and comments here and in the past, I always learn something when you put your two cents in.

James,
Thanks for the link and directing me back to that website. I had forgotten how much info there is there.

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Thanks for the comments Ross,

I do not know how line overlay is accomplished in photoshop.
Could you point me towards a tutorial?
Is it doable in elements?

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Here are a few.
su modeling - podium rendering - photoshop landscaping - and last, but not least, Fotosketcher!

I have run into this as well.
Usually it is files that I have scanned as jpegs and then
imported into su. More often than not they are large format plan scans.

I too have had the first one I import work, and then the next one not work.
Same format, same scanner, same everything.

My work around has been to open the jpeg in a separate photo editor and do a "save as" and choose "jpeg"
and rename it and then re-import it.
That works most of the time.

If it still does not work I will then start a new su file and import the images again after
re-saving and re-naming all the jpegs files I want to import.

Good luck

p

@solo said:

framer who knew enough about SU to take it into layout and setup/print

Wow! Hopefully not too many framers will learn...I will be out of a job.

Sketch up is actually a very good fit for framers if they can get over the
technology hump. Modeling details is about as real world as it gets without making
sawdust.
I see a day when there are large screen interactive displays on the job site
for the tradesman to work from. Real time conferencing between the office and the
job site. Really...I beleive this will happen, even in the residential field.
(Hammer proof screens and input devices will be a must.)

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Thought I would mention that the working drawings shown in the photo above of the
elevations were generated with the su model. I exported elevation views
from sketchup in dwg format, then opened them with Archicad to do the notes and hatching
and such. The su model export is surprisingly clean and works well for blocking
out the elevations.

FYI

@cadmunkey said:

I love seeing these 'model to reality' type threads. Congrats on a job well done.

Thank you.
Very kind of you to say.

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Pbacot,
You observation of the 16Th of an inch dimensions is a keen one. Normally I do not dimension to that degree of accuracy. In this case however,
we are the builder, and the field dimensions were taken by me and the drawing of the stone is actually the size that it will be cut to.
The Stone supplier may choose to adjust slightly if it makes sense to them to do so, but this gives them an accurate starting point.

Also, math does not lie. If I take an existing overall measurement and need a certain equal number of divisions within that measurement and it comes out
at xx 1/16", so be it. The guys in the field will laugh, call me an idiot, discuss what color the sky is in my world, and then make it happen, but they will at least have an accurate plan to start with.
I absolutely agree that the craftsman should be shown what we want, not how to get there. Especially when dealing in such artistic mediums as interior
cut stone and Finish carpentry. The good ones are artists!

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I will post finished photos.

]p

The Game!

Thanks for the comments Kurt.
Sorry to hear you are unable to practice your chosen profession.
Sounds like you have a real passion for the work!

p

Thanks Kurt!

Damn Yankees!
Minnesota Twins take the two games at Yankee stadium and then one at home and off they go!
Yes, I am delusional.

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Thanks Sepo & Pilou!

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You Thea people are driving me crazy!

I do not have time to learn another rendering application!
Because of these blasted beautiful Thea renderings you keep posting
I am afraid I must find time.

Thanks a lot!

%(#FF4040)[*"I will post some images of the home during construction.

If any of you have images of models and the finished
real world building I think it would be interesting to
see them posted side by side."*]

Here are some shots of the home taken today.
Hope to have the owners in by xmas.

Looks kind of like the Model