Hi all

Quoted from Devin Kendig on Chaos Group forums
"if you're wondering if VfS development is currently under way, the answer is yes."

Hope he doesn't mind me posting this here. Great news.

GREAT GOOOOAAAAAAAAALL!!!!!

Breakfast, coffee and the Euro's what a way to start the day.

@tadema said:

It's one of those models that won't play (I hope it's not just me that this happens to )
John

Totally know what you mean

Must apply image to both faces.

Hi all
Im having a problem with a PNG billboard. The PNG image is the woman. You can see that the shadows and reflection from this are wrong. I think they look like they are a smaller version of the image and are tiling. This has happened on all models I have tested. So I expect its something simple I'm missing. Ive also posted in the Chaosgroup forums cos Im in a mega hurry to finish this job

Im using 1.49.01

Cheers for any help.

@andybot said:

That happens to me sometimes if I open up a second window of sketchup. Is that an issue for you?

Yup usually I have 2 SU windows open.

This happens to me from time to time. Generally only on larger models. I have no fix suggestions other than revert back to a previous save. I assumed this was a bug. I feel your frustration. By the way I'm using the latest build

WOW even more reasons to move to Thea Render.

Development crew.....you are on FIRE

Hi
Can you tell us what settings you are using. for example
"Caustics Tab"
-Max photons
-Multiplier
-Max Density
-Search Distance

"Environment...GI Color Tab
-Caustic Subdvis
-Photon radius

have you followed this tutorial step by step?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHdi5bEdlI

@nomeradona said:

@holmes1977 said:

@solo said:

Recent animation using biased engine, 22 minutes total render time

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1129899/Produce.mov (should play online, let me know if it does not)

Yup it plays........impressive 22min!!!!!!! Im sold on it Pete. I dug up Thea yesterday and started doing some tuts. Just got sick of the limitations of using a renderer within SU.
are we on the same boat.. hating poly limitation here and doing workarounds. whilst im asking vray to do a stand alone, so that it wont be dependent with su shortcomings.

Hi Normeradona
I think we are in the same boat. The reason for the work around was the high poly limitation. I dont want to have to rely on work arounds. Like you, I think the fix for Vray is to have a standalone app for Sketchup. Dont think this will happen though. Kind of goes against the gain of Vrays development direction with Rhino. I would imagine to develop a new Vray standalone for Sketchup would take sometime. But here's hoping I'm wrong.
I love seeing how you are doing with Thea Render. Has really inspired me to learn it.

@hieru said:

@holmes1977 said:

Hard to stomach when I cant even afford the software they use, and I charge 3x the amount that they do

I've run into the same problem but it is worth noting that often the quality of renders isn't that great..........obviously some people are willing to pay less even if that means they end up with a poor end product.

There are however signs that things are changing. In the last month I've received three emails from three different Chinese companies offering rendering services for around the same price that I would charge.

Thats good to hear. Hope clients in my country cotten on quick. Cos I reakon my profits are down 30% because of Chinese companies. I have to get smarter

@solo said:

Recent animation using biased engine, 22 minutes total render time

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1129899/Produce.mov (should play online, let me know if it does not)

Yup it plays........impressive 22min!!!!!!! Im sold on it Pete. I dug up Thea yesterday and started doing some tuts. Just got sick of the limitations of using a renderer within SU.

@valerostudio said:

I think there are a lot of folks using this software and not paying for it. Our industry is saturated with guys overseas using Max and Vray and charging $100 for a rendering. How do you think they are doing that?

Im like Pete, Ive come up against this LOADS. Even when quoting architectural Design and plans. Getting out quoted by less than half. Hang on are they paying insurance, tax, software overheads. It seems being honest is a losers game. But I cant stand being robbed, so I would never do it myself.

I really wanted to get into Arch viz full time. I gave that away when I found out half the jobs in my country were being tendered to overseas company's for a third of the cost. I just couldn't compete. Hard to stomach when I cant even afford the software they use, and I charge 3x the amount that they do

@hieru said:

@holmes1977 said:

Maybe quality, but no way speed.

Are you forgetting the biased render options?

Ok...I havent tried the biased engine yet.....Mind you I havent seen many who have. Is it as fast as Vray?

@hieru said:

But you can use Thea with Modo and that can easily match Vray for speed and quality.

Maybe quality, but no way speed.

@nomeradona said:

some of my friends what they do is they render first the background trees. then the foreground trees, then the house without trees, and if have trees minimal. all the save images in png. then they composed in photoshop. it means they render by stage..

Ive used this method a few times. Works well. Gets complicated when shadows/reflections of the foreground fall/effect on objects in the background. There is always tricks to work around this. But does take some planning and time.

Max Vray really does seem to be the industry standard. I just don't know how people afford it. I just don't make enough money off Arch Viz alone to warrant splashing the cash on that set up. Its like $3500USD 3dsmax 2012, $1350USD Vray2, $280USD Muli scatter. Thats one serious investment. But with alot of skills and a set of tools like these, the world is your oyster. Check out the latest works by Jamie Holmes http://jamieholmescg.blogspot.co.nz/....no relation to me

Have never come across that problem before. This is probably a question you should put to the developers @ chaos group http://www.chaosgroup.com/forums/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?126-V-Ray-for-SketchUp

@solo said:

I'd suggest Thea... but then again I love Thea so I'm biased.

I think its time for me to start learning it. You may see lots on me in the forums with 100 and 1 questions.

@aozhouyyq1982 said:

Hi guys,

Anyone here possibly knows how to render massive plants, such as 3D hedge, tree, ground cover... using Vray.

right now, my solution is Thea render, but I really dont want to give up Vray, which is great tool.

any suggestion, experience are welcome.

Thanks

Im in the same boat. My opinion is that Vray4SU is just not the tool for this type of rendering. Even when the new Vray4SU 1.5 comes out with proxy's I just cant see how this is gona be stable inside a 32bit application (SU) They must still be about 6months off finishing development, since last i heard they were bug fixing Vray4Rhino 1.5.

If you want to stick with Vray the cheapest option would be as anybot said, Blender+standalone Vray. Or the best option being 3dsmax+Vray which will cost you an arm and a leg. But opens so many additional apps.

You truly are a PS master.