@sorgesu said:

Sorry,again, the question is not what they use. The question is what comes native with MAC. We won't really be doing anything much. Painting over something and that's it. It is just a demo. 2 seconds no more. So I just need the path. I'll ask some MAC friends somewhere.

Are you talking about exporting a 2D into something like PhotoShop? Mac's don't come with a built in Image Editor and I can't imagine iPhoto being of any benefit. Graphic Converter is not a freebie.
DE

@cheffey said:

I think it would work fine. I've used sub/smooth plugin on some cartoon characters.

here:

http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=13476
and
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=9859

Solo has a ton of them at
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=9675

Teezer's Raptor is here.
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=9920

and Coen has a sculpture and tutorial here.
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9148

These aren't buildings but might give you some techniques for the sub/smooth plugin.

I think kwistenbiebel has a thread on an interior and an exterior in which he used the sub/smooth plugin on, and MonsterZero has a video on how he uses plain sketchup as a polymodeler.

I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with.

EDIT: Kwisten's interior
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=9991&p=64453&hilit=zaha#p64453

Kwisten's famouse Render #22
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=10224&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=subdivide

MonsterZero's video of modeling character:
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=6070&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=monsterzero

Thanks a lot!!! This is exactly what I was looking for.

Hey,
I've been noodling some organic designs lately and was wondering how Sketchup handles free form objects. Lets say modelling a building inspired by Mr. Potato Head.

@gaieus said:

Speaking of Cabernet Sauvignon, the region where it is the most delicious in Hungary is Villány - about 30 kms south of my place and 20 kms from the Croatian border.

Here is an "online book" or something with nice images (just keep pressing the right button on evbry page to advance).

Actually, one of the most well known and prestigeous owner and producer there rents my garage downtown Pécs where I live and he even offered a kind of "bartel" business that he'd pay me in wine instead of money. I was really thinking about it but then we agreed on the money business instead.

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Another wine region of fame in Hungary is Tokaj (often spelled "Tokay" in foreign languages) which is even part of the UNESCO World Heritage for its wines and viticultural traditions. We even had kings crowned in this particular cellar (which later became the "official" estate and cellar of the Hungarian Crown - the Habsburg dynasty; also emperors in Germany and later Austria).

They exclusively grow white grapes here but certain kinds can only been produced here. Particularly famous kind is the "aszú" (there is not even a foreign term for it) which is called the "vinum regum, rex vinorum - wine of the kings and king of the wines" which was even exported as far as the French and Spanish royal courts although we know there is some wine tradition in these countries as well.

Thanks Csaba,
My grandparents on my mother's side are from Hungary, but I have never been there. I can see a visit to Hungary and Croatia in my future, when I visit Spain and Portugal later this year.

@plot-paris said:

wow, that really sounds like fun. isn't that one of the most horrible things? when some people, who have no idea about design somehow end up in a position where someone listens to what they say (pink spanish/african town) and destroy the work of months...

What can I say... beats working in a bank.
DE

@mateo soletic said:

@unknownuser said:

Hey Mateo,
The 2004 Cabernet Sauvignon, Yountville Selection from Grgich Hills sells for $135.00 USD/759HRK. What does the most expensive wine at a comparable Croatian vinyard sell for?

The question here is about selections. There will always be somebody that has a limited selection from
a good year that will place a price tag on it. But generally a good year, good winery barrique sells around 150-200 HRK - 25-35 US and at the wineyard you could probably get it even 20%-30% cheaper. If you were closer I could send You some to try. These local red wines are really good. Lot of sun on steep hillside.

Mateo,
I did a little Googling and you live in a beautiful place. Maybe I should visit, buy a little vinyard overlooking the sea. I'm trying to find a local store that sells Croatian wine, no luck yet. My wife spent three months working on a movie in China last year and tried a Chinese wine called Dynasty - they all called it Die-Nasty is was so bad.
BTW I really like your designs for MARINOVIC.
DE

@chris fullmer said:

Have you thought about joining one of those Wines of the month clubs? Just pay a subscription fee and they send you a new bottle every month. I've known people who have liked that method.

Chris

Hey Chris,
I'm more interested in connecting with some members of the forum who are from countries I normally wouldn't consider for wine choices. Mateo, is a good example, he has educated me about Croatian wine. Hopefully, others will respond, or are all Architects Scotch drinkers - not that that's a bad thing. Maybe Scotch could be the next topic?

DE.

@mateo soletic said:

The first from the list produces one of the best red wines in Croatia.
Not because he is My Cousin.Anyway I know all these people well so if
You need some recommendations or wine tasting just call.

And You know this one:
He is the most famous Croatian wine producer outside of Croatia.
http://www.grgich.com/

Hey Mateo,
The 2004 Cabernet Sauvignon, Yountville Selection from Grgich Hills sells for $135.00 USD/759HRK. What does the most expensive wine at a comparable Croatian vinyard sell for?
DE

@fossa said:

I thought I posted here once but must have hit preview rather than submit

My wife and I just came back from a weekend at Hermann Missouri. It's a small German community just outside of St. Louis.

Try http://www.stonehillwinery.com Their cream sherry is awesome. We also liked the Adam Putcha winery. I couldn't find them online.

Thanks, I'll check them out. Missouri wine... cool.

@baker518 said:

Why not do your own? from kits

I've done that from grapes... took a month for my feet to return to their normal color.
I'm hoping to eventually connect with SketchUcation members who have tried wines from small estate wineries in other countries.
DE

@pbacot said:

Plot, David:

Double shot: PD sounds like building design in many ways, especially in the stops and starts, twists and (arbitrary) turns. Sometimes just as tight a design / build. You may have to "document" things while they are being changed in the field. Usually it's no hurry until suddenly it's urgent.

Peter

The biggest difference is I don't care if mine falls down in three months. lol

@msm said:

I've been looking around at some of the work people do on this forum. If I want that hand-drawn look, I wonder if it's better to put the trees in my model on Sketchup or in Photoshop?

I ask because I've noticed hardly anyone uses Sketchup trees in their models...

Assuming you are only concerned with producing a 2D illustration you need to consider that once you move from the 3D model to 2D you are committed to things like perspective, light and shadow etc. Which means that any objects you source and add after the fact must conform. I always try to include as many 'ornaments' as possible in Sketchup before it goes into Photoshop or Paint.
Tip: The secret to working in Photoshop is 'layers' - these work differently than layers in Sketchup. Always make a duplicate of your master and call it something like 'master working copy'. Now create a layer called trees or whatever and make sure it is the overlay layer. You can now use the pencil or brush tool to add freehand strokes over the 'master wc'. If you don't like the effect just delete that layer and you have the untouched working copy underneath. When you are happy with the result you can merge the layers and take it into a filter like watercolor or play with some of the light renders.
I also suggest you check out a pen/tablet for drawing instead of a mouse. Wacom makes some good inexpensive ones.
Play around... be happy.

DE

In my experience as a Production Designer 'rigid' layer-type workflow systems don't work as a departmental framework. Film and Tv production is about budget, time and the ability to turn 180 at a moments notice. The going joke is - by the time it's finally drawn, it's already built, shot and binned. You spend days or weeks concepting a Spanish town and they decide to change it to an African village and still want the concepts tomorrow. It's the nature of the beast. I need to pull people off one thing and throw them into the African village - then it goes back to the Spanish town but the deadline is pulled up to tomorrow because the producer forgot he has to be in divorce court in two days.
You pull it all together and the presentation goes great... then the day before it all goes to camera the head of the studio's girlfriend (who is 19 and works as a personal trainer) comes to set and tells him she thinks it would look better painted pink-ish.
DE

@gf.greg said:

...In fact I'm thinking that maybe I'd like to generate a new thread based on our discussion here...
One focused on "workflow" and how people combine different tools and how they integrate SU in their design process...
I think I'll give it a go, might have to repost some of the stuff I've shown here...

I think that's a stellar idea. Let's see what people who think 'outside the box' come up with. Architects are welcome.
DE

Greg,
Your points are right on the mark and it's really great to hear from those who work 'on the dark side' and see what they are doing. Great examples! Thanks.
DE

Okay... so this is cracked.
Reloaded SU7 and it works fine now! I'm blaming it on Bryce who is trying to mess with Sang.

Thx.

@gaieus said:

In the Newbie Dept I have just posted this little video (not very good quality - you know of YouTube - but you know what's happening there, I guess)

Are you saying that after making one sphere you cannot get the green inference that I get there?

Yes, that's my prob. I know how to make a sphere, however, in SU7 I can only get the red/green inference the first time. When I try to make another different size sphere the circle tool will not turn red. Not sure why this is happening, it works fine in SU6.
Thx.

@andyc said:

Double - some of my stuff might be relevant. SU and Photoshop. Agree with your assessment that SU can only take you so far though, especially at the conceptual design stage. For basic blocking and perspectives though, it's a great tool.

Andy,
Great stuff.Great energy! You are definitely taking SU to that filmic place I was looking for. Lets shoot it!
I agree that Sketchup is perfect for roughing out ideas and it also shaves hours off those foamcore models we did way back when (read five years ago - lol).
DE

David,
I like the bottom one, however the copy seems to crowd the image. I would try it with your company name where it is and move everything else into a line across the bottom below the robot.
Very clever design.
DE

@solo said:

double coffee dude, attached is a dome and a sphere, it's higher poly than a regular dome and sphere as it's got more faces thus smoother.

Hope this helps.

[attachment=0:vwf3d1cz]<!-- ia0 -->domes and spheres.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:vwf3d1cz]

Thanks Solo,
I was actually wondering why after I draw my first sphere... I can't get the circle tool to go red or green when I try to make another sphere?