[Plugin][$] JointPushPull Interactive - v4.9a - 02 Apr 25

HeyJujube

J'ai de gros problèmes avec ce plugin (mode vecteur) sous SketchUp Pro 2019 (Mac 10.14). Problème connu ?
Merci

Capture d’écran 2019-04-05 à 11.30.28.png

fredo6

@heyjujube said:

J'ai de gros problèmes avec ce plugin (mode vecteur) sous SketchUp Pro 2019 (Mac 10.14). Problème connu ?
Merci

Difficile de juger sans le modele. Et, franchement, l'image ne me permet de savoir de quoi il s'agit.

Fredo

HeyJujube

N'importe quel modèle, ici une simple colonne inclinée pour l'exemple.
La face part dans tous les sens, se déforme, "explose".
J'ai toujours utilisé le plugin, mais récemment passage à SU 2019 sous Mac.
Merci

fredo6

@heyjujube said:

N'importe quel modèle, ici une simple colonne inclinée pour l'exemple.
La face part dans tous les sens, se déforme, "explose".
J'ai toujours utilisé le plugin, mais récemment passage à SU 2019 sous Mac.
Merci

it looks like the Vector direction is on the plane of the face.
Could you either lock an axis direction with the arrows, or find a proper direction and lock it (Shift).

theVonZipper

Thanks Fredo for the fantastic plugins. I use 'Divide faces' often and of course Joint Push Pull. Just wondering, is there a way for Push Pull Interactive to inherit layers from the faces they are affecting as the Classic version did?

Dave R

Faces and edges should always be created on and remain on Layer 0. See Controlling Visibility with Layers.

Einstein

Hi!

I have an idea for a small feature upgrade.
Actually, two ideas ^^

Possibility to apply positive + negative offset in one go, so you can thicken a surface on both sides immediately
Extrude faces to point, like in Rhino. It would be almost analogic operation to scaling about a point which can be performed via ThomThom's Rotate and Scale. However, you'd then have to manually connect border edges of source and result meshes. Rhino has a tool which does everything in one step. I attach an illustration for it.

What do you think about it?

extrude about point - request.png

fredo6

@einstein said:

Possibility to apply positive + negative offset in one go, so you can thicken a surface on both sides immediately

This is doable, though not trivial, because I have two generate two faces for each original face. It would also require an additional option, maybe triggered by a modifier; the only left is ALT (on Windows)

@einstein said:

Extrude faces to point, like in Rhino. It would be almost analogic operation to scaling about a point which can be performed via ThomThom's Rotate and Scale. However, you'd then have to manually connect border edges of source and result meshes. Rhino has a tool which does everything in one step. I attach an illustration for it.

This would be a new tool actually. I need to think about it, but a priori an interesting idea.

Einstein

Could you please increase extreme angle values for Molding in the next release? Now it's +- 60, which is a serious limitation in some cases. I'd suggest 89 or even 90 - this would practically create a flat offset (nice!). Certainly, faces would overlap but that could be fixed manually.

fredo6

@einstein said:

Could you please increase extreme angle values for Molding in the next release? Now it's +- 60, which is a serious limitation in some cases. I'd suggest 89 or even 90 - this would practically create a flat offset (nice!). Certainly, faces would overlap but that could be fixed manually.

If the angle is too large, then you are almost sure to get overlaps and mess up the extrusion.

Here is what I get with the set of letters, each one of width roughly 0.5 m. I had to reduce the offset of extrusion to 0.001 m (that is, 1mm) to get a molding at 85 deg. without overlap.

JPP Molding at 85 deg.png

With an offset of 1cm, the extrusion gets seriously messy

JPP Molding at 85 deg - mess.png

I can increase it to 89 degrees. At 90, you reach math limit, since there is NO extrusion, and JPP does not like it. So, I'll probably pick 85 degrees, to make it a multiple of the 5 deg increment in a next release.

Fredo

Einstein

Thank you

fredo6

NEW RELEASE: JointPushPull Interactive v4.4e - 02 Jun 19

JointPushPull Interactive 4.4e is a minor release including an increase of the maximum angle for Molding (now 85 degrees).

JointPushPull 4.4e requires LibFredo6 8.7m or above

See plugin home page of JointPushPull for Download of JointPushPull.

Main Post of the JointPushPull thread on this forum

Fredo

Einstein

Thank you, for me it's a major release

jonnys777

Morning all,

I'm getting the follow error trying to thicken some terrain on the z-axis;

Date: 20-Jun-19 08:06:15
An error occurred in Vector Push Pull
Error in generation of the geometry

Could not compute valid matrix from points

body_lib6g6.rbe: 4568 -- position_material
body_lib6g6.rbe: 4568 -- reverse_face_with_uv
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 556 -- block in geometry_handle_finishing
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 556 -- each
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 556 -- geometry_handle_finishing
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 376 -- geometry_robot_handle_finishing
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 222 -- robot_call_action
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 183 -- geometry_robot_exec
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 166 -- geometry_robot
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 81 -- block in geometry_execute
lib6operation.rbe: 370 -- call
lib6operation.rbe: 370 -- step_geometry
lib6operation.rbe: 305 -- block in yield?
SketchUp: 1 -- call

jonnys777

@jonnys777 said:

Morning all,

I'm getting the follow error trying to thicken some terrain on the z-axis;

Date: 20-Jun-19 08:06:15
An error occurred in Vector Push Pull
Error in generation of the geometry

Could not compute valid matrix from points

body_lib6g6.rbe: 4568 -- position_material
body_lib6g6.rbe: 4568 -- reverse_face_with_uv
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 556 -- block in geometry_handle_finishing
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 556 -- each
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 556 -- geometry_handle_finishing
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 376 -- geometry_robot_handle_finishing
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 222 -- robot_call_action
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 183 -- geometry_robot_exec
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 166 -- geometry_robot
jointpushpullgeometry.rbe: 81 -- block in geometry_execute
lib6operation.rbe: 370 -- call
lib6operation.rbe: 370 -- step_geometry
lib6operation.rbe: 305 -- block in yield?
SketchUp: 1 -- call

I'm not having much luck resolving this. I've tried scaling up and inspecting the surface to see if there's anything obviously wrong. It allows Normal Push Pull, but Vector, Joint etc. all fail.

Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

It's a fairly complex surface - a piece of terrain that is a hill with sections cut out of it (I draped a road onto the surface so that counts as a separate surface, for example). The surface I want to extrude is vegetation and I need it locked to the z-axis otherwise the software I intend to import it into won't work properly.

Many thanks

fredo6

@jonnys777 said:

I'm not having much luck resolving this. I've tried scaling up and inspecting the surface to see if there's anything obviously wrong. It allows Normal Push Pull, but Vector, Joint etc. all fail. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

I included a fix in LibFredo6 9.0a

@jonnys777 said:

It's a fairly complex surface - a piece of terrain that is a hill with sections cut out of it (I draped a road onto the surface so that counts as a separate surface, for example). The surface I want to extrude is vegetation and I need it locked to the z-axis otherwise the software I intend to import it into won't work properly.

If you post or PM me the model, I can have a look and advise.

jonnys777

@fredo6 said:

@jonnys777 said:

I'm not having much luck resolving this. I've tried scaling up and inspecting the surface to see if there's anything obviously wrong. It allows Normal Push Pull, but Vector, Joint etc. all fail. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

I included a fix in LibFredo6 9.0a

Hi Fredo, I can confirm the updated version of LibFredo has solved my issues. Many thanks, and keep up the good work.

DigitalArena

Have a problem with one installation of this set of tools on Pro 2019. We have the latest Fredo6Lib. We have installed the latest JointPushPull plugin. The tools appear in the toolbar. But when you select the surface and then the tool, the tool doesn't become active. You remain with the mouse pointer and it doesn't change to the selected JointPushPull tool.

Any idea why this would be happening?

We installed the same setup on another computer and everything is fine. Thoughts?