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    • Jean-FrancoJ Offline
      Jean-Franco
      last edited by

      looking at your skp and welding part of the segments you'll see different results.
      TIG-Smart_offset_example.jpg

      Jean-Franco

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      • R Offline
        rv1974
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        @jean-franco said:

        looking at your skp and welding part of the segments you'll see different results.
        [attachment=0:2t1zi3eq]<!-- ia0 -->TIG-Smart_offset_example.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2t1zi3eq]

        I exploded those arches and no offset get executed ๐Ÿ˜’

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        • Jean-FrancoJ Offline
          Jean-Franco
          last edited by

          @rv1974 said:

          @jean-franco said:

          looking at your skp and welding part of the segments you'll see different results.
          [attachment=0:3fig2342]<!-- ia0 -->TIG-Smart_offset_example.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3fig2342]

          I exploded those arches and no offset get executed ๐Ÿ˜’

          Yes, the same behavior for me.

          Jean-Franco

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            I'm investigating...
            ๐Ÿ˜•

            TIG

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Here's v2.0 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
              Just ready for the New Year ๐Ÿ˜‰

              It has further refinements and glitch trapping.
              The recent reports of malformations were caused by the face having very 'sharp' spikes, which were returning a false negative when testing for their offset vertices for the new outline's points. This is now fixed, but it has meant that the point-on-face 'checking tolerance' has had to be increased to 0.5mm - so it could now fail on a face that has a 'finger' that is narrower than 0.5mm, when measured along adjacent vertices' internal-angle-bisectors - but that is very very unlikely anyway...
              ๐Ÿ˜’

              TIG

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              • R Offline
                rv1974
                last edited by

                the last one is much better!
                things to refine:
                no outer offset in attached shape


                tig4.skp

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                • M Offline
                  mapi_79
                  last edited by

                  great job, as always TIG. Thank you and Good Year ๐Ÿ‘

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Here's v2.1 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                    This version now has the same vertex checking tolerances applied to curves' vertices as to plain edges... [I accidentally missed that code out in the previous version].
                    Hopefully it now also works with the recent problem offset examples posted: mind you, these are getting somewhat 'extreme' ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                    Feedback please ๐Ÿ˜•

                    TIG

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                    • kenK Offline
                      ken
                      last edited by

                      TIG

                      I have been following the updates, and the plugin still has this output with my model. I am not sure this is correct or is a problem.

                      Thanks for your work.

                      Ken


                      Image 1.png

                      Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        TIG

                        I have been following the updates, and the plugin still has this output with my model. I am not sure this is correct or is a problem.

                        Thanks for your work.

                        Ken

                        Ken, I'm curious. If you were to draw that out with paper and pencil, what would you expect that amount of offset to look like?

                        Etaoin Shrdlu

                        %

                        (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                        G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                        M30

                        %

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @Ken
                          That's not right. ๐Ÿ˜•
                          The offset is not maintained evenly - it's too near the 'spikes'.

                          I can't get the effect... ๐Ÿ˜ž
                          However, I do get the outline failing at some point sooner than it ought, when the inward facing 'spikes' get so large they cut through to the other side of the shape...
                          I looking to see what's up with that...
                          Outward offsets are also problematical on that shape...


                          Capture.PNG

                          TIG

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                          • R Offline
                            rv1974
                            last edited by

                            @tig said:

                            Here's v2.1 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                            This version now has the same vertex checking tolerances applied to curves' vertices as to plain edges... [I accidentally missed that code out in the previous version].
                            Hopefully it now also works with the recent problem offset examples posted: mind you, these are getting somewhat 'extreme' ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                            Feedback please ๐Ÿ˜•

                            It starts to look like quest game ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                            Step by step it's getting better.
                            Inner ofsetting (value:-25) in my last attachment is not 100% correct.
                            P.S. Thank you
                            And Happy New Year!

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Maybe you just need to change the name of the plugin to TIG_Random _Shape_Generator.rb. ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„
                              offset.png

                              I also got something similar to your second one, TIG, when I used a larger offset distance.

                              Etaoin Shrdlu

                              %

                              (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                              G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                              M30

                              %

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I've got my algorithms in a twist [very painful!]
                                Trying to unravel the mess...
                                I'll update asap...

                                TIG

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                                • kenK Offline
                                  ken
                                  last edited by

                                  @dave r said:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  TIG

                                  I have been following the updates, and the plugin still has this output with my model. I am not sure this is correct or is a problem.

                                  Thanks for your work.

                                  Ken

                                  Ken, I'm curious. If you were to draw that out with paper and pencil, what would you expect that amount of offset to look like?

                                  Dave

                                  Well I don't know. That is why I questioned, just what is an offset in an earlier post. Like I said, I only use offset to define a distance to place another object. I know that an offset will eventually distort the shape, so I don't use it to make a larger version of the shape.

                                  I just feel that the attached offset is not what I expected. And it may come to past, that after doing an offset, no matter which tool is used, an individual will need to clean up the edges.

                                  A side note, it would be nice if an offset could be made with guidelines, that way I would get my distance, and be able to delete the offset lines later.

                                  Ken

                                  Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @tig said:

                                    @Ken
                                    That's not right. ๐Ÿ˜•
                                    The offset is not maintained evenly - it's too near the 'spikes'.
                                    .

                                    actually, that's pretty close to being right (aside from the whole arc offset business i got into earlier..)

                                    if that arc is a half circle then i offset the same distance as the two top squares are wide then the solution would be this: (the white is inset from the blue shape)

                                    setooof.jpg

                                    [EDIT] -- i updated the image to include dimensions

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      mardi 01 Janvier 2013

                                      The following was I think a difficult exercise (;-)) but Smart_offset v2.1 20121231 has made the deal about 87% well and quick.

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_01_zps973e8de7.jpg

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_02_zpse0d2d1f2.jpg

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_03_zpsef62cb93.jpg

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_04_zps3d943985.jpg

                                      +++simon

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Happy New Year, Simon... ๐Ÿ˜
                                        I am working on an up date that should up the percentage of successful outcomes too ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        TIG

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                                        • shuraS Offline
                                          shura
                                          last edited by

                                          Happy new year TIG!

                                          gosh, this plugin is something I've been wishing for at least a trillion of times. You are my hero Sir!

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                                          • utilerU Offline
                                            utiler
                                            last edited by

                                            Just returned today from a few weeks holidays. Never too late to use your manners my grandma used to always say!!!

                                            TIG, Trimble needs you, really. Not to mention all the other programmers around here that produce everything from simple tweaks to full blown toolsets...

                                            A big thank you from me!!!!

                                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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