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    • Rich O BrienR Offline
      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by

      @Fredo

      Is your frame changing thickness? It does for me

      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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      • jason_marantoJ Offline
        jason_maranto
        last edited by

        I got it accurate just using basic tools, but you have to do some contorting to get it done:(see this post for the file http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=401904#p401904)

        I misread the beginning of the thread and initially thought the dimensions were not important... which is why the first version did not achieve victory ๐Ÿ‘Š

        Best,
        Jason.

        I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          A little light in my deseperation? ๐Ÿ˜„

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
            last edited by

            [off:19rh2vop]
            @unknownuser said:

            The thing absolutly crazzy is that the Rotation tool
            seems accept just the base alignement as only good alignement! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
            I am totally depited! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

            I love this word![/off:19rh2vop]

            Yes if heights are not a given... Push pull the posts to the diagonal ๐Ÿ’š

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              Jason, how do you determine the where the diagonals hit the sides of the posts?

              Fredo's example does result in a narrower board. It could also be achieved with native tools by selecting one end of the board and moving that end up.

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                If you measure .5m up and down the verticals, the board is not going to be .5m thick.

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                • jason_marantoJ Offline
                  jason_maranto
                  last edited by

                  The desired thickness is .5 meters -- so the first guides are each measured out to .5 meters from the main diagonal (the only one that is obvious and never changes).

                  So the next Diagonal can be found at intersections at .5 m guide up on the left post and .5 m guide down on the right post -- from there you delete the original guides and connect the diagonals with the line tool.

                  After that you pull off new guides to .5m from the bottom and top -- which again will give the corrected diagonal at the intersections on the left post and right post... the other diagonal has been known since the beginning(doesn't ever change).

                  All I used was the line tool, tape measure tool, and push pull.

                  Best,
                  Jason.

                  I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    @Fredo

                    Is your frame changing thickness? It does for me

                    Ooops. I should have read the thread in details.
                    Then, it just need a dedicated plugin, this won't be a conform transformation

                    Fredo

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                    • jason_marantoJ Offline
                      jason_maranto
                      last edited by

                      It is as I show in the updated file.
                      challenge_final.jpg
                      Best,
                      Jason.

                      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        A "plugin free" solution that is accurate to 0.009mm...


                        DrawDiagonalRail.skp

                        TIG

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          No need to change anything! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                          With the fredo scale ๐Ÿ˜‰
                          Just make the rotation on the top of the block! ๐Ÿ’ญ
                          [attachment=1:1hqifa7e]<!-- ia1 -->yes.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1hqifa7e]

                          [attachment=0:1hqifa7e]<!-- ia0 -->yes2.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1hqifa7e]

                          That changes the width of the board, doesn't it?

                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • M Offline
                            mac1
                            last edited by

                            rail rotation.jpg

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              No need to change anything! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                              With the fredo scale Planar Shearing shown previus! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                              Just make the rotation on the top of the block! ๐Ÿ’ญ

                              Perfect! ๐Ÿ‘
                              yes.jpg

                              yes2.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                When testing I recommend you put the posts further apart as with near square shape deviances might be so small that you think you have a correct solution.

                                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Mac1

                                  How do you get the rotated guide pt to snap exactly onto the horizontal top guideline ?

                                  TIG

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    That changes the width of the board, doesn't it?

                                    No nothing is changed ๐Ÿ˜„
                                    You have just to draw the block box to modify on the ground, with any measures (just fit the 2 pilars )
                                    Nno need to push cut anything! ๐Ÿ‘

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      Pilou, when I used Fredo's method my board went from 5" wide to 3-1/16" wide. The length of the miter remained at 5", though. I'd say that's a change. Mac1's idea looks interesting.


                                      diagonal.png

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Is this "close enough"?


                                        PinkBoard-BlueBoard.png


                                        PinkBoard-BlueBoard.skp

                                        Gai...

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                                        • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                          jason_maranto
                                          last edited by

                                          Absolute accuracy seems to be something that would be pretty easy since we know all of the measurements, including the first diagonal -- I would just rotate a copy of the diagonal around the midpoint to make the second diagonal, thus giving all 4 ending points for the shape... but I would need to calculate the specific degrees for the rotation, and I'm not well versed in that level of math.

                                          Definitely seems a plugin to make this is a need after all... if absolute accuracy is required.

                                          Best,
                                          Jason.

                                          I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @gaieus said:

                                            Is this "close enough"?

                                            Measurement.png

                                            Very close - but surely it should be possible for full accuracy..?

                                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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