Simple Artisan examples collection

baz

@baz said:

David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes?

Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

Point taken, perhaps a link or info on some jargon busting, Geometry for Artison 101?.
For example 'N-gons'???

Rich O Brien

@baz

polygon or tri-gon = triangle
quad = 4 sided polygon
n-gon = more than 4 sided polygon (replace n with the numbers of sides)

olishea

Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

Subdivision Modelling

Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

(theorangeduck.com)

olishea

@cotty said:

Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

No, because these are still relatively simple. I think it was just the jargon that was getting out of control.

Rich O Brien

anyone is free to ask what's being said.

it is something worth learning.

@cotty

we have a preliminary wiki in dev if you are interested in porting this thread to that at some point.

Hieru

Maybe some of my examples are more 'intermediate' - part way between basic primitives and complex objects like soft furnishings or vehicles?

I don't want to bloat the thread, so perhaps I should start a new topic just for the examples I've been reinterpreting for SU?

In the mean time, here's a faceted hexagonal form that blends into a cylinder (sort of like a screwdriver handle).

I would have liked to have achieved this with quads only, but I couldn't figure out a solution.

pilou

Maybe this can help you

baz

@olishea said:

Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

Subdivision Modelling

Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

(theorangeduck.com)

Thanks Oli, that's a great article, a must read I'd say. The 2 videos are very good too.

I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

Hieru

@unknownuser said:

Maybe this can help you

Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

pilou

@unknownuser said:

Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

I see all images without to be logged!

olishea

@baz said:

I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

Great news Baz. It wasn't intended to be esoteric. It's just difficult to explain things without using some sort of field-specific language.

Hieru

@unknownuser said:

I see all images without to be logged!

I've tried with IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome and get the same result. A few images show up, but the key ones are missing. I suppose it must be because the thread is so old and the missing images must have been hosted outside the forum.

I'll have a look around elsewhere and see if I can come up with a solution. Thanks for the link though

It's a pity there isn't an option with vertex tools that would only allow you to move geometry to positions where it won't triangulate.....a sort of lock-quads feature (if that makes sense?).

Rich O Brien

@david

I'm just throwing this out there but you are aware that vertex tools does respect QuadFace convention?

pilou

@Hieru!
I see what you mean! Sorry!

Here there are all images but it's in French!

Rich O Brien

@david

to view that page use waybackmachine july 2012

Hieru

@rich o brien said:

@david

I'm just throwing this out there but you are aware that vertex tools does respect QuadFace convention?

I haven't used it since my initial trial - I was just assuming from the videos that the gizmo distorted everything free-hand. Now I'll have to give it another go!

Rich O Brien

It doesn't.

Also install Thom's AutoSmooth plugin to force quadface creation on nonplanar quads

Hieru

@unknownuser said:

@Hieru!
I see what you mean! Sorry!

Here there are all images but it's in French!

@rich o brien said:

@david

to view that page use waybackmachine july 2012

Thanks guys

Hieru

@rich o brien said:

It doesn't.

Also install Thom's AutoSmooth plugin to force quadface creation on nonplanar quads

Thanks Rich - really appreciate the advice .

I'd been putting off working with vertex tools, but it seems like it's going to be essential when it comes to improving my Artisan modelling.

There go my plans for the weekend out the window .

Hieru

Here's a neat little trick I figured out today. It's a method for creating a more relaxed (evenly spaced) subdivision for a many-sided circular planes.

You will need QuadFaceTools (QFT in the gif) and SplitTools: