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    • charly2008C Offline
      charly2008
      last edited by

      I must correct myself. In your example it works without welding but only if the two lines have a little more distance. Otherwise I get the same error messages. I previously thought the lines would have to be welded. now I've found that it is not so. Sorry, I am ashamed. I was back to cheeky.

      Charly

      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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        robert111
        last edited by

        charly how to modeling this exemple plz can you make tuto plz, il love yours objet with this plugin


        SCF%20Crown3.jpg

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        • R Offline
          robert111
          last edited by

          and for this exemple too


          Ring1.jpg

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          • charly2008C Offline
            charly2008
            last edited by

            To all who are interested,

            My mistake is based on the plugin Extrude Edges by Loft. Here welded edges or corners are required. I realized only now with Curviloft only just a double-click on the edges is necessary to complete the selection. Without the post from Thomas, I would have thought about it.

            I could have saved myself a lot of time. You get used sometimes to a particular workflow or action and thought no more about it.

            Charly

            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
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              @charly2008 said:

              I realized only now with Curviloft only just a double-click on the edges is necessary to complete the selection.

              or, adjust the max edge angle then single click (though in thom's example, the filter needs to be around 130 deg.)

              screen 4.jpg

              [this feature comes in very handy in certain instances]
              [use the tab key for even more filter options]

              dotdotdot

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              • charly2008C Offline
                charly2008
                last edited by

                Thanks Jeff for your tip.

                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                • charly2008C Offline
                  charly2008
                  last edited by

                  Hi Robert111,

                  i will place the tutorial here:

                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=29374

                  Charly

                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                    SpookyChick1013
                    last edited by

                    Hi there Fredo! I've had Curviloft in my plugin folder for quite a while, and only recently figured out how to make it work. (To Whom It May Concern; Thank you all for your tutorials!) Curviloft is an awesome plugin and extremely useful. Once I figured out how to use it, I have had no problems until just recently, (say, a week ago?) when I started getting the following error message:Curvi Load Error.PNG

                    I think we can safely ignore the matchbox plugin error, as MatchBox is not even installed and has not been for over 18 months (it would not play nice with other plugins so I vaped it...)and Curvi worked fine until after i downloaded and installed the latest version( Curviloft 1.0c, and LibFredo6 35c.) Curvi still works ok for the most part but I have started to get strange behavior from the orthogonal curves setting. As you can see this happened with both of the Orthogonal settingsInterestingly, this did not start until last night. I figured a work-around,What I wanted and got after a work around but I was curious if the reported errors had something to do with it.

                    Once again, thank you so much for all of your hard work and genius! >hugz'n'cookiez, because I don't have any beer today<

                    https://kuromatsudriveyards.com

                    Fo-su to tomo ni aran koto o...

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                    • charly2008C Offline
                      charly2008
                      last edited by

                      Hi,

                      a Curviloft Lamp.

                      Charly


                      Unbenannt92.JPG

                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                        SpookyChick1013
                        last edited by

                        As always, BEAUTIFUL work, Charly!

                        https://kuromatsudriveyards.com

                        Fo-su to tomo ni aran koto o...

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
                          last edited by

                          SpookyChick1013

                          1) Error with Matchbox
                          I have no clue what the matchbox plugin has to do here (especially if it is not present on your disk), but you seems to get an error from CurviloftPalette which is rather strange. Did you download Curviloft from Sketchucation?

                          1. Error on model
                            I don't see exactly what is the problem. Maybe it could be a good idea to post the model, so that I can have a look. There are still plenty of issues with all functions, and some simply depend on the order of selection, or orientation of curves, which may explain why it works one day and not the other.
                            By the way, did you get a crash (bugsplat) in Curviloft the night before you start having problems?

                          Fredo

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                            SpookyChick1013
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            SpookyChick1013

                            1) Error with Matchbox
                            I have no clue what the matchbox plugin has to do here (especially if it is not present on your disk)
                            Neither do I. For some reason SU just refuses to acknowledge that the darn thing is gone, but it has never been a problem,so I haven't worried about it.
                            , but you seems to get an error from CurviloftPalette which is rather strange. Did you download Curviloft from Sketchucation?
                            Yes. Latest versions from right there on the first post of this thread. Oh, and I also DID go ahead and redownload and reinstall the whole thing today. Still getting the error.
                            2) Error on model
                            I don't see exactly what is the problem.
                            Sorry, Fredo, I forgot to circle the problem area.StangeBehavior 1.PNG
                            Maybe it could be a good idea to post the model, so that I can have a look. Here you go.gAUSS pISTOL 2copy.skp
                            There are still plenty of issues with all functions, and some simply depend on the order of selection, or orientation of curves, which may explain why it works one day and not the other.
                            By the way, did you get a crash (bugsplat) in Curviloft the night before you start having problems? No. Curvi just started doing this after I had been modelling for 2-3 hours. I'm not sure exactly why, either. Of course, I don't know much about writing plugins, just quite a bit about breaking them (self-deprecating humor)

                            Fredo

                            Thanks for being willing to take a look at this Fredo. I admit I don't know much at all about coding. I'm an enduser not a developer, so ruby script might as well be ancient Sumerian to my eyes. 😕

                            https://kuromatsudriveyards.com

                            Fo-su to tomo ni aran koto o...

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              hey spooky,

                              if your loft lines were vertical then ortho would do what you're asking it to.. as it is, the splines are perpendicular to your profiles.. curviloft lets you make global adjustments to the segments etc (in the main curviloft display) as well as individual sections (while in edit mode, click in one of the sections which will highlight yellow then adjust segmentation in there)..

                              that aside, i think you'd be better off using a different approach as you'll see in pics 3&4 + in the attached skp

                              1.jpg

                              2.jpg

                              3.jpg

                              4.jpg

                              i made a few changes to your profile lines but that's a different story..

                              [i hope this makes enough sense.. i posted this with a 1am vino filter 😄]

                              dotdotdot

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                              • S Offline
                                SpookyChick1013
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                hey spooky,
                                if your loft lines were vertical then ortho would do what you're asking it to..

                                %(#0000BF)[Thanks, I actually was unaware that that can make a difference. I definitely will be keeping it in mind for the future, although my question to Fredo about this still stands, because either the program was operating wrong before, and started working the way it's supposed to, or it originally was working right and something went wrong. Either way, it seems odd that a plugin would change behavior midsession like that. Then again, I do have a talent for breaking things, so who knows..... 😕]

                                @unknownuser said:

                                as it is, the splines are perpendicular to your profiles..

                                I guess I'm a bit dense, but perpendicular in what way? No sarcasm, I just don't exactly understand what you mean.

                                @unknownuser said:

                                curviloft lets you make global adjustments to the segments etc (in the main curviloft display) as well as individual sections (while in edit mode, click in one of the sections which will highlight yellow then adjust segmentation in there)..

                                Right. That I was aware of. One of the many things I love about Curviloft.

                                @unknownuser said:

                                that aside, i think you'd be better off using a different approach as you'll see in pics 3&4 + in the attached skp

                                [attachment=4:obxht400]<!-- ia4 -->1.jpg<!-- ia4 -->[/attachment:obxht400]

                                [attachment=3:obxht400]<!-- ia3 -->2.jpg<!-- ia3 -->[/attachment:obxht400]

                                [attachment=2:obxht400]<!-- ia2 -->3.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:obxht400]

                                [attachment=1:obxht400]<!-- ia1 -->4.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:obxht400]

                                [attachment=0:obxht400]<!-- ia0 -->handle.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:obxht400]

                                @unknownuser said:

                                i hope this makes enough sense.. i posted this with a 1am vino filter 😄

                                No worries about the vino filter Jeff. You're speaking clearly enough, and 1 am is the perfect time for that... The model you sent back looks great. I had not even considered using the skinning function as you did. I definitely should have tried that. Whatever changes you made to the profile curves certainly worked out well, and I most certainlydont mind in the slightest. Although, so I can learn from this, what changes did you make and how did you do it?

                                https://kuromatsudriveyards.com

                                Fo-su to tomo ni aran koto o...

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  @spookychick1013 said:

                                  ]
                                  I guess I'm a bit dense, but perpendicular in what way? No sarcasm, I just don't exactly understand what you mean.

                                  it's not that they need to be vertical per se but the profile splines should be parallel to get your desired results.. it's just something i noticed with curviloft and the orthogonal settings.. (fwiw, in rhino, the profiles can be tilted like you have them and the lofted surface remains straight on the bottom/top_

                                  the red lines are perpendicular.. so are the splines created with curviloft/orthogonal

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Whatever changes you made to the profile curves certainly worked out well, and I most certainlydont mind in the slightest. Although, so I can learn from this, what changes did you make and how did you do it?

                                  i redrew all the profiles using fredo's BezierSpline plugin.. it makes a smoother curve and evens out the segmentation..

                                  here's a video showing the whole process.. i did this on a laptop using the trackpad so i apologize about the jumpy navigation etc..

                                  [flash=660,405:3u6imqlr]http://www.youtube.com/v/Ai8ggH9NfIs?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1[/flash:3u6imqlr]

                                  [also - i copy/pasted your lines into my own template.. i noticed with yours that they are drawn upside down.. the solid blue axis line should be pointing up instead of down.. if you turn on sky or ground, you'll see what i'm saying + the navigation is weird (for me) in your file]

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • O Offline
                                    olbapxpablo
                                    last edited by

                                    curviloft is not working for me.
                                    other plug-ins works fine except this one

                                    is there anyone can help?

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @olbapxpablo said:

                                      curviloft is not working for me.
                                      other plug-ins works fine except this one

                                      is there anyone can help?

                                      Can you be more specific please?
                                      No menus/toolbars?
                                      Error messages?
                                      Unexpected results?

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        SpookyChick1013
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        it's not that they need to be vertical per se but the profile splines should be parallel to get your desired results.. it's just something i noticed with curviloft and the orthogonal settings.. (fwiw, in rhino, the profiles can be tilted like you have them and the lofted surface remains straight on the bottom/top_

                                        Ooooohhh-k...Now I get it. Still having my morning coffee, so it took a moment to get it. Thanks, now I understand what you meant.

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        i redrew all the profiles using fredo's BezierSpline plugin.. it makes a smoother curve and evens out the segmentation..

                                        Downloading that plugin today! Looks like more options and less of a PITA than the native bezier stuff.

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        here's a video showing the whole process.. i did this on a laptop using the trackpad so i apologize about the jumpy navigation etc..

                                        Excellent! Thank you for the tutorial and the time you spent on this.

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        also - i copy/pasted your lines into my own template.. i noticed with yours that they are drawn upside down.. the solid blue axis line should be pointing up instead of down.. if you turn on sky or ground, you'll see what i'm saying + the navigation is weird (for me) in your file

                                        %(#0000BF)[OOOOOps! um, yeah...There was a reason I set it up like that. I was aware of that, but I just forgot to put it back the normal way way before copying the file. I guess I need to take better process notes as I'm working, and reread them occasionally. My apologies for that, Jeff; and also you Fredo, if you have taken a look at this model.
                                        Anyway, once again, thanks very much for your time and effort explaining things and helping me on this Jeff. It is greatly appreciated. 😄]

                                        https://kuromatsudriveyards.com

                                        Fo-su to tomo ni aran koto o...

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                                          olbapxpablo
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          @olbapxpablo said:

                                          curviloft is not working for me.
                                          other plug-ins works fine except this one

                                          is there anyone can help?

                                          Can you be more specific please?
                                          No menus/toolbars?
                                          Error messages?
                                          Unexpected results?

                                          thanks sir

                                          theres menu and i can do the steps but theres no result or looks like nothing happen still on its original form
                                          and sometimes after i click on the shape 1,2 & 3 then click outside or anywhere to finalize the steps my SU8 turn to notresponding state

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @charly2008 said:

                                            Hi Thomas,

                                            i welded each line and below the result in Sketchup 8.

                                            Charly

                                            I just tried to weld - and I could not get it working.

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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