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    • EdsonE Offline
      Edson
      last edited by

      one problem i am facing right now is how to draw a helix that will fit precisely the stair i am building. i have tried helix, drawhelix and curvemaker but they all seem not to make things easier for one.

      helix asks you to select a face. it does not seem to accept integers like 1.5.
      Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.12.46.png
      in drawhelix, what is pitch and sections per?
      Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.13.15.png
      the parameters in curvemaker are obscure: what are from turns, to turns, sides/turn?
      Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.13.54.png

      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        In Drawhelix, "Pitch" is the total height of the helix while "Sections per" will refer to the segment count it will use per turn (in that screenshot 5 turns).

        So say if you want to combine it with a "regular" circle base, which has 24 segments all around, leave it at 24 in the plugin, too.

        Gai...

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        • simon le bonS Offline
          simon le bon
          last edited by

          Hi Edson, Hi everybody,

          And why not use COMPONENT STRINGER ?

          It is very powerful and flexible. >> Once the component is distributed along the path, you can open it and work on it in order to change the all stair in one pass: for example build and join the ribbons to make a complete one 😉 (I understand myself 😆 )


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/KerkyThea/Wire020_th.jpg

          😛 simon

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          • charly2008C Offline
            charly2008
            last edited by

            Hi,

            maybe a simple method with draw helixand follow me and keep. However, I do not know yet how to make the transition to the next floor!


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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              @edson said:

              the parameters in curvemaker are obscure: what are from turns, to turns, sides/turn?

              from turns to turns has to do with the origin parameter.. if you have the origin set at 0,0,0 then set from turn at 2 and to turn at 3.. the helix will end up being one full revolution starting above the actual origin (ie, it will be as if two revolutions were made but only the top revolution will be drawn)

              for simplicity sake (or the way i use it).. if you want one rotation, set it from turn 0 to turn 1.. if you want 1 1/2 turns then go from 0 to 1.5.. 3 revolutions = from 0 to 3 etc... then move the helix into the location you want..

              sides/turn simply means how many line segments you want the helix to be drawn with per 1 revolution.. same thing as drawing a circle in SU - default is 24 sides/turn but you can change it to whatever you like.

              dotdotdot

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                @d12dozr said:

                Jeff's method is great, and could save a step and some cleanup by using TIG's EE by Vector to pull the helix up vertically. So you would:
                -Draw helix with Curve Maker
                -Extrude helix vertically with EE by Vector
                -use JPP to give it thickness

                oh yeah, that's way better..

                screen-1.jpg

                dotdotdot

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                • D Offline
                  dtrarch
                  last edited by

                  Hi Edson

                  Easy to build a circular stair using 2 Olde scripts.
                  draw helix and spiral stair.
                  Both available on Didier's site.
                  (seems to be off line now)
                  Just to make sure here is the all script zip file and quick tut on how to build.
                  Use the handrail path (followMe and Keep) to extrude handrail shape or to create walls along the stair.
                  For floor to floor just copy and move up/down as needed.

                  Thanks for jogging my memory on this too.

                  dtrSU SPIRAL STAIR TUTORIAL.png


                  us_all_scripts.zip


                  SPIRAL STAIR TUTORIAL.skp

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                  • charly2008C Offline
                    charly2008
                    last edited by

                    At the end it should look like that. Still without stairs. Any Idea how to complete it with steps?


                    Spiral stair1.jpg


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                    Spiral stair3.jpg


                    Spiral stair.skp

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                    • EdsonE Offline
                      Edson
                      last edited by

                      thanks to all of you for your contributions. there is now more than one method to solve this problem.

                      before checking here i found another way of doing it precisely with the stair tool of 1001bit tools (excellent set of plugins, by the way). i attached a tutorial explaining how i did it.
                      red_heli_stair.png


                      Spiral_Ribbon_Stairs_Tut.skp

                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Here's another way - entirely by hand - without Plugins [from a Plugin-fiend] 😉Capture.PNGHelicalStairWithoutPlugins.skp

                        TIG

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                        • EdsonE Offline
                          Edson
                          last edited by

                          beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @edson said:

                            beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

                            Maybe I should try some .... 🤣

                            TIG

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                            • charly2008C Offline
                              charly2008
                              last edited by

                              FollowMeand keep with Grow could be the ideal solution.


                              Spiral stair.jpg

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I deliberately avoided mentioning my Grow tool as I was trying to show it all 'long-hand'... 😒

                                TIG

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                                • charly2008C Offline
                                  charly2008
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi TIG,

                                  shure you can help me to solve a small problem with Grow. How can i manage that the Center of the Grow object meets a individual axe.

                                  Thanks in advance

                                  Karlheinz


                                  Spiral stair.jpg


                                  Spiral stair1.jpg

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Manipulate the component's axis and its location relative to the 'growth' point....

                                    TIG

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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      The final result with FollowMeandKeep and Grow.


                                      Spiral stair.jpg


                                      Spiral stair1.jpg

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                                      • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                        honoluludesktop
                                        last edited by

                                        You guys are great, hope I can find this post if I ever do a spiral stairs in SU.

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                                        • P Offline
                                          pmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          No offense to all you spiral stair makers but the wide stairs that you show with winders coming to a narrow point would be very dangerous (especially in descent). I would suggest a bigger inside hole or solid radius to assure a minimum tread depth. That's why typical library or residential stairs are quite narrow in width so as to keep a person in the middle of the tread with proper depth for the foot. Such wide stairs with point winders would be prohibited by code in the US, even for non-egress stairs in commercial stuctures.

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                                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                            Chris Fullmer
                                            last edited by

                                            But if you put a traffic dividing handrail right down the middle, then make the inside lane flat and smooth, you could have a really nice safe up half with wide treads, and a nice spiral slide down lane. 😄

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