Wow...thanks for the quick responses. Unfortunately my appreciation was a little delayed due to work commitments. It's not really paranoia.... I like to be organised and my house, garden in fact most area's of my life I like to be straightforward and compartmentalised. I have this vision of creating an exact replica of my house and garden, (which I spend 15 minutes a night creating on sketchup and is coming along quite nicely) and then adding information succinctly with visuals of the actual object to include details such as; hyperlinks to user manuals warranty info serial numbers servicing dates I even plan to extend into the garden and name individual plants with details such as when to prune etc... That way everything is in one place.... Thanks again for your comments...I have not yet seen the solution from your responses but I am sure there is such a thing out there. Keep the suggestions coming David

Of course you can share the output freely. "Sell, rent, lease or lend" means for profit; money or other exchange of goods. So if you are a spaceship designer and wish to boast with your renders in the gallery section, please, continue doing so.

I haven't written something like that. So far I only take care and add switches for the differences ( String.[], methods["method_name"] || methods[:method_name], …)

Thanks TIG, I had no idea, overall SU is so much more user friendly: in Acad and Vectorworks if something like this happens a reinstall is the norm.

@tig said: AND if you did have to give your SKP models to 3rd parties... and your were of a devious disposition... then you might use 'save_as' into a v8 [or even v7] SKP - taking it back when there was no restriction on 'commercial use' - and now the there is no objection or [probable] 'traceability' of the original SKP version in that copy... Im thinking that Trimble might soon disable the ability to save in lower versions (free versions) especially if new functionalities are introduced in future updates. This will then give the Pro subscribers advantage over the SU free users. -another way of making free versions obsolete. Not that I dont want to subscribe to pro for my own personal freelance work,but until I see a difference in functionality in the SUv8 and SU2013 (apart from the import export formats, and Layout which I dont use at all) I wouldnt mind going back to my SU v8 with the useful 3rd party plugins Ive always been using. Then I will uninstall SU 2013 altogether if my conscience has to hunt me about the terms and condition I agreed with.

3DMax has in it's subscription tools a sketchup tool. I don't know which direction it goes but it may handle this task. otherwise check this thread out. http://forums.cgarchitect.com/62917-best-way-go-3ds-max-sketchup.html @unknownuser said: From Max though I had to make sure that any detail was removed from my modelling, any object stacks were colapsed to an editable mesh (poly was okay but SU liked mesh better) and all materials were Standard Max materials with just basic colour (no maps). I think that's how we went about it. It was a while ago.

SketchUp 2013 requires a license file no matter whether you have the Pro version (license file contains Pro license key) or the free "Make" version (contains agreement for non-commercial use). While SketchUp 8 tried to make the executables more different to prevent licensing problems, they reverted that and made the executables almost identical, introducing a lot of new problems under certain circumstances (Make turns itself into expired Pro, refuses to run more than 1 instance, or refuses to run as "portable" app). I assume the above problem was due to user/admin priviledges (in an ideal world, programs would absolutely never request you to run as admin). Strangely the license file is sometimes located at different places, like Users/Public/AppData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2013/SketchUp13.lf which is writeable with simple user privileges. Maybe SketchUp will also find it when you move it there?

Well you're doing very well... It's a good drawing. I don't know who or what this is for so just take this as you need it; One thing I've begun to add to most of my plans is 3D shots. Either in black and white or color. For instance, the bathroom elevation at the bottom could be moved over and a 3D shot could be placed there of the interior. Perhaps from the entry looking in. It adds some punch to the drawing.

No fair! I just blew beer all over my keyboard.

Glad that helps. By the way, if you haven't done it yet, install the Sketchucation PluginStore plugin and then auto-install Recurve and the other plugins you'll wind up with eventually.

I only made this thread so people could bitch without starting a flamewar in the other thread.

[quote="Dave R"]Paul, this isn't a bug with SketchUp 2013 so I moved it into SketchUp Discussions. Thanks for that Dave. Just back from dodging raindrops in the New Forest. I will sort this out, many thanks for your response. Best regards. Paul

@chedda said: I'm English ! Lol I guess this should be in the plugin section. I'm literally crying with laughter! and poopy time?!!! ages 3+?!! WHAAAAAAAA? What is going on in the world?!

These should be moved to the Gallery, because you're no Newbie! Nice work. P.s. that man standing in the living room should be made into a "Face Me" component.

Another issue. Due to the new pricing system I miss the yearly fee to our developers, which allows Trimble to set up the extension site with foreign Plugins. Without these Sketchup is a bit useless in commercial work. Maybe 50% of the upgrade price should be enough The new Extensin site is a good idea, but is basicly done by others and just a collection, rather than a new upgrade achievement.

good topic...good question....and simple straight forward replies in a language that us non geeky noobs can understand...!!

Another way of looking at this is "Geometry Density". You want appropriate amounts of detail - with drag and drop of components from external sources, its very easy to add innocuous content that has far too much detail compared to the rest of the model. I've seen simple school room models with more faces in a single coat peg than in the rest of the model! For this reason, I wrote a free plugin called Goldilocks which can help track down in your model, where you've got geometry objects which have more detail than the surroundings. http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/goldilocks Adam