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    driven
    last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:57

    @Al, if you read the prominent notice at the top of the page...
    NOTICE: SketchUp 2015 is here! When you look at this Knowledge Center article, be sure to pick "SketchUp 2015" from the red box above to see the 2015 version of that content. If there is no version picker, this content applies to all versions of SketchUp.

    I think you will find your looking at v2014...

    john

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      Krisidious
      last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:57

      Why would plugins need to be recompiled then? And that would mean Mac was not 64 bit at all?

      By: Kristoff Rand
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        AndrewS
        last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:57

        @al hart said:

        The SketchUp description of 64 bit says: "The exception to this 32-bit status is that SketchUp for Windows has been built with an exception to allow 64-bit memory usage which allows SketchUp to use more than 4 Gb of RAM."

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        DO you think the second use of the word exception is a mistake, or do you think SketchUp found a way to create a "pseudo" 64-bit - which uses more memory, but isn't really recompiled for 64 bits?

        You're looking at the wrong version of the article--for 2014 instead of 2015. Go back to that article and read the bright red warning at the top that tells you to use the dropdown menu to change to the 2015 article. Then you'll see what you'd expect.

        SketchUp 2015 x64 is absolutely, 100%, without a doubt, compiled for native 64-bit execution. The exception message was in regard to 2013 and 2014.

        Andrew

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          jiminy-billy-bob
          last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:59

          Al, you are looking at the 2014 version of the Knowledge Center. The sentence you quoted is refering to the 32bits versions of SU making use of the "large memory address" flag, which allow 32bits applications to use a bit more than 3GB of RAM on 64bits systems.

          EDIT: Whow, I'm slow!

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            Al Hart
            last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 22:22

            @andrews said:

            You're looking at the wrong version of the article--for 2014 instead of 2015. Go back to that article and read the bright red warning at the top that tells you to use the dropdown menu to change to the 2015 article.

            Andrew

            Thanks Andrew - I had seen the warning - but still I assumed I was in the right place, since I had gotten there by clicking on the link in the SketchUp 2015 What's new article.

            Reading the proper page will be much more informative!

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              JonFar
              last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 22:48

              is it just me (and my pc) or there isnt any noticable improvement in UI navigation performance with heavier models?

              its faster to open and save, but i was hoping to be able to work on high poly models with a 64bit version, but the navigation speed seems the same as with 2014 32bit...

              nevertheless, im glad that sketchup is moving to 64bit ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

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                Mra
                last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 22:49

                I think they forgot to test on a Quadro, it's really buggy with nVidia saying sketchup ran out of memory on a blank/fresh scene. Also dragging the window around results in very sluggish program. Hopefully nvidia updates their drivers.

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                  numerobis
                  last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 23:10

                  @jonfar said:

                  ...i was hoping to be able to work on high poly models with a 64bit version, but the navigation speed seems the same as with 2014 32bit...

                  64bit is not faster than 32bit - and can be even slower in some cases - but it enables you to address more RAM and work with bigger files. And navigation speed is not related to RAM size, but only to CPU speed (single threaded) and GPU speed (which is less important in SU).

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                    JonFar
                    last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 00:22

                    hmmm i see... but with other software like Cinema 4D i can produce high poly scenes without it ever slowing down... (navigation wise)

                    i thought it had to do with C4D being 64bit, and was hoping to work with high poly models in SU 2015, but it still bogs down

                    even so there are some other new features that i like and will come in handy

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                      Krisidious
                      last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 01:02

                      My large models are definitely moving and rotating fast and without going into wire mode.

                      By: Kristoff Rand
                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        hellnbak
                        last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 02:21

                        Was going to wait till some of the inevitable bugs were worked out till I tried 2015, but after reading some of the comments here I decided to give it a shot.
                        My needs are very basic, I don't use many plugins, so I wasn't sure what the new 64bit SU would do for me.
                        WOW! I loaded one of my largest models (not in size, only 4.87MB, but over 3 million edges, 30,000 component instances, etc) and was immediately impressed with how quickly the shadows regenerated when moving the model. Only a second or two, and with R8 I usually took a nap while waiting for the shadows to eventually reappear. And as Krisidious pointed out, without it going into wire mode, no matter how much I played with the model.
                        Don't know how I'll live without my beloved and much used Nudge tool, but with what I've seen so far with 2015, I guess I'll learn to get by without it.
                        It'll be worth it, since I don't render I depend on using shadows to make my models look presentable. Now it will be a whole lot easier.

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                          Bob James
                          last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 04:01

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Don't know how I'll live without my beloved and much used Nudge tool

                          Why? Works fine for me. You had me really worried until I checked to make sure ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            sketchuh
                            last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 06:42

                            Can't wait to Vray render in Sketchup 2015!! excited.

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                              hellnbak
                              last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 09:25

                              My enthusiasm for 2015 has been tempered by the fact that I cannot use the Model Location plugin. The Nudge plugin I can maybe do without, but not the Model Location plugin. Not about to go back to physically rotating the model each time I want to adjust the shadows.

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                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 09:30

                                That's an easy fix Steve I'd imagine.

                                One will eventually come.

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                                  Rob D
                                  last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 10:18

                                  The new labeling tools are great in Layout. Finally looks like we have the power of Leaders in SketchUp. I've posted about my thoughts http://robindejongh.com/?p=1019

                                  The 64 bit experience is the biggie, although I still can't get it to work. Memory on my 8Mb machine is still capped at 4Mb. Anyone with suggestions?

                                  Memory capped at 50%

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                                    Rob D
                                    last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 10:22

                                    Ah, then I switched on shadows ๐Ÿ˜„

                                    memory capped not.jpg

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                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 10:26

                                      Try adding 10000 array of cube and orbiting.

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                                        Bruce Watt
                                        last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 14:12

                                        In V2014 I had the VCB docked on the left hand side. In V2015 I can seem to move it. How do I move it or is it now fixed?

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                                          olishea
                                          last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 14:12

                                          Still can't believe it's 64 bit. Am I dreaming?! ๐Ÿ˜„

                                          oli

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