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  • J Offline
    jeff hammond
    last edited by 27 Jun 2012, 04:42

    [off:24nvuvci]
    @tig said:

    [this menu's name is slightly different on a MAC for some arcane reason]...

    i think it's because mac apps already have something referred to as 'toolbar' and it's in most apps including sketchup.. there's also a View -> Customize Toolbar & View -> Hide Toolbar in mac sketchup (and again.. most other apps as well) which refer to the toolbar at the top of a mac window.

    so the sketchup devs probably changed it to 'Tool Palettes' as a means to try to avoid confusionโ€ฆ (and if they called it 'tool palettes' on windows, that too could lead to confusion on that OS..)
    hence the different names

    ?[/off:24nvuvci]

    dotdotdot

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    • N Offline
      Nentautako
      last edited by 6 Jul 2012, 07:28

      just a month i've been playing with tools on surface by freddo. how do i erase the dots left by "arc" tools [included on tools on surface]...

      see dots on hood on this model... ๐Ÿ˜„

      Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

      favicon

      (sketchup.google.com)

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      • M Offline
        massimo Moderator
        last edited by 6 Jul 2012, 07:54

        Just go to edit-->delete guides.

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        • R Offline
          rv1974
          last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 09:03

          I have problem: I can't offset the preselected curve on the face, the offset tool always select the whole face (with unwanted additional edges). How to disable this mode?
          Thanks.


          11.JPG

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          • D Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 09:09

            Where's the unwanted edge? I get what you show in the second view. The edge that didn't get the offset is divided at the intersection of the neighboring edges but that's normal behavior for the native Offset tool as well.

            Etaoin Shrdlu

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            • P Offline
              pilou
              last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 09:28

              Curious, I don't see any problem : Just no select surface only edges! ๐Ÿ˜„
              If I select the 3 edges, Offset Tools works like it must work! ๐Ÿ˜„

              Curious.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • T Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 09:32

                @unknownuser said:

                Curious, I don't see any problem : Just no select surface only edges! ๐Ÿ˜„

                SketchUp's native Offset tool - or Tools on Surface Offset tool (which is the topic here).

                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • T Offline
                  thall26
                  last edited by 31 Oct 2012, 00:55

                  Hi,

                  I am really excited to use your tool for Sketchup but this message appears when I start up Sketchup. (see attachment) Let me know what can be done. Thanks!


                  ErrorMSG3.JPG

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                  • D Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by 31 Oct 2012, 08:32

                    Quell your excitement long enough to go back and thoroughly read the first post in this thread and then install the required LibFredo files as clearly spelled out there.

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

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                    • T Offline
                      TheIsingGuy
                      last edited by 2 Nov 2012, 10:19

                      When I put this into Sketchup 8, I get the following Error message:

                      Error Loading File ZLoader__OnSurface.rb
                      no such file to load -- LibFredo6.rb

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 2 Nov 2012, 10:52

                        Please, go back to the first post and under the download section, re-read what's needed. In this case:

                        "IMPORTANT: Requires to download LibFredo6 3.6 or higher if not already installed"

                        Install this library as well.

                        Gai...

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                        • T Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by 2 Nov 2012, 12:13

                          Also - the second post before your post contained the exact same question.

                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • jgbJ Offline
                            jgb
                            last edited by 13 Nov 2012, 20:38

                            Fredo, anybody........

                            What am I doing wrong here? โ“ โ“

                            I've had this problem before, but solved it in a roundabout way. Messy but it worked. ๐Ÿคข
                            It used to work as I recall, then it didn't, but until now I just went on.

                            I am trying to draw an arc on a curved surface. But the end segments of the arc bend away from the arc, (in a consistent manner every time) effectively destroying a nice arc.

                            The black dotted precurve is OK, but the red lined curve distorts. I do keep the cursor on the surface or on a line on the surface, but nothing seems to work.

                            I'm trying to form a contour for Curviloft to round out the edges of the flight deck on my airship.

                            I have 2 complete screen-shots of the problem. If you want a SKP of the object, I'll post it.

                            Arc on upper surface failed

                            Arc on side surface failed


                            jgb

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by 13 Nov 2012, 21:37

                              Joel,

                              That's a big deficiency of Tools on Surface and in particular for Arc drawing when the arc is on fully on the surface. I am afraid I have no workaround quickly for that.

                              Fredo

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                              • jgbJ Offline
                                jgb
                                last edited by 14 Nov 2012, 14:25

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Joel,

                                That's a big deficiency of Tools on Surface and in particular for Arc drawing when the arc is on fully on the surface. I am afraid I have no workaround quickly for that.

                                Fredo

                                Kinda makes the Arc function a little less than useful, ya think??? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                Is there at least a plan to fix?


                                jgb

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                                • fredo6F Offline
                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by 14 Nov 2012, 20:12

                                  @jgb said:

                                  Is there at least a plan to fix?

                                  No immediate plan I am afraid!

                                  Maybe you can extrude the surface to prolong it and draw the arc over it.

                                  Possibly, send me the model so that I have a quick look.

                                  Fredo

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                                  • jgbJ Offline
                                    jgb
                                    last edited by 14 Nov 2012, 23:38

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @jgb said:

                                    Is there at least a plan to fix?

                                    No immediate plan I am afraid!

                                    Maybe you can extrude the surface to prolong it and draw the arc over it.

                                    Possibly, send me the model so that I have a quick look.

                                    Fredo

                                    Don't understand what you mean to extrude the surface to prolong it.

                                    Anyway, I made the curves manually and completed that portion of the model, so posting it will not be of use to you. Next time, I will save a copy of what I'm doing for you.

                                    Funny thing though, ARC did work on a smaller section over 2 or 3 faces. The difference in size was significant (30 ft did not work, 20 inches did work) and I believe the segment count was different for each.

                                    Tomorrow I will experiment with sizes & segments to see if there is a pattern. If there is, that should be a clue for you.


                                    jgb

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                                    • G Offline
                                      galinette
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2012, 09:10

                                      Dear all,

                                      First, thanks for the awesome plugins.

                                      I'm trying to use Tools on Surface without success. I installed the latest 1.8a with the LibFredo6 4.6, but I have no toolbar, no menu, and nothing under preferences/extensions

                                      I could install Joint Push Pull without any issue and it worked well.

                                      Here is my plugins folder:
                                      tos.jpg

                                      Thanks for help! I have to draw a pretty complicated curved building facade with openings in it, joint push/pull with curves on surfaces should do it!

                                      Regards,

                                      Etienne

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2012, 09:23

                                        Do you have FULL security permissions to the Plugins folder ?
                                        Check/change in context-menu; select its icon and > Properties > Security > Edit.
                                        You [and 'everyone else using SUp'] should have FULL permissions to read/write/change the Plugins, Components, Materials and Style folders - simply being an Admin is not sufficient.
                                        It might be that you have got the files in the right locations/subfolders etc BUT some of Fredo's tools need to read/write log/dat files to Plugins/subfolders etc and with even the slightest limitations on the folder's permissions can stop things working. Reinstall the files after fixing the permissions to FULL in case there are residual issues...

                                        What's inside the subfolder TOS_Dir_18 ?

                                        But assuming it's still broken! I wouldn't expect a clash with it... but try renaming skindigo.rb to skindigo.rb! [also the 'ocean.rb' ??? what's that] and then restarting SketchUp; see if TOS appears then... Sometimes 'uncommon' scripts have unexpected results on 3rd party tools...

                                        TIG

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                                        • G Offline
                                          galinette
                                          last edited by 21 Nov 2012, 09:36

                                          I moved away skindigo.rb, skindigo dir, and ocean.rb (which is a small script I made)

                                          I add my user full privileges to the plugins folder and subfolders

                                          I also checked the ruby console, no errors or warnings when the plugin loads

                                          tos2.jpg

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