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    Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      Interesting. I could do one letter at a time at the current size. I selected about half of them and tried it and got a Bug Splat. 😞

      I tried doing limited groups of letters. The center row went fine as did the first two thirds of the top row. When I tried to do the last batch of letters in the top row, Splat!

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        I got splats on the 'r 'in 'marian' and 'heart'.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          At original size it Bugsplats big time! [probably a 'tiny facets issue' on the small curved edges in the R - but why not the P or & ?]
          But Scale x100 and then JPP 200" [on the whole thing at once], then Scale back down x0.01m to get this good/swift outcome Capture.PNG

          TIG

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          • gtalaricoG Offline
            gtalarico
            last edited by

            Scaling helped. Thanks! 😉
            Never thought it make a difference... is because SU doesn't like expressions with number like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000002003 ? 😒

            -Gui

            http://www.gtalarico.com

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            • ayan13A Offline
              ayan13
              last edited by

              great plugins ! I use it a lot! Thank you !!!

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              • H Offline
                helios
                last edited by

                My apologies if this was answered before, but is it possible to use this plugin to uniformly add thickness to a cylinder-like object? I created it by pulling a circle (and then scaling it at several points) and now would like to add some thickness to the currently hollow object, as it is going to be 3D printed. I am, in essence, trying to pull all the outside surfaces at a perpendicular angles.

                Many thanks!

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                • jgbJ Offline
                  jgb
                  last edited by

                  Yes. Use the Joint Push/Pull (not the Vector). Select the surface of the cylinder and using the JPP tool, click on any face in the selection. It will outline in red. Pull it up as thick as you want, or more accurately, pull up a short distance and type the thickness to the Measurements box. Press <Enter> to get a preview, then <enter> again to complete the thickening.

                  Depending on the defaults you have for JPP, it may or may not form a group of the thickened section.
                  You can explode the group if you want.


                  jgb

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                  • jgbJ Offline
                    jgb
                    last edited by

                    I just got that "transformation" error as well. 😮
                    While the attached SKP is documented, here's what happened.

                    There are 2 errors depicted in the attached model.

                    1 - I tried to thicken (using JPP preset at 90 deg) the housing by .1 inch. Error.
                    I read this thread and scaled up 10X, same result.
                    If I do the hub and flanges separately, it works, but there is a mess to clean up.

                    2 - When I thicken any pair (or more) faces that are at an angle to each other, and any face has a hole in it, the hole thickens at some median angle, not perpendicular to its face. The circle on the thickened face is also distorted into an oval/ellipse.

                    There is one other transformation error I've noticed as well, but seems to happen in specific repeatable cases where the transformation logic is simply stumped for a good solution.
                    Ya kant code for every case.... bin-der dundat. 😆 (Well respected Indian explorer)
                    I'll post a separate model of that problem if wanted.

                    So now in those cases I know where to look and do a quick and simple fix.
                    Believe me, JPP is a Golden Ruby I cannot live without.

                    Apologies... First post I forgot the SKP file. 😳


                    As above.


                    jgb

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                    • mitcorbM Offline
                      mitcorb
                      last edited by

                      @helios: Not to disparage such a fine tool as Joint Push/Pull, but a possible alternative is Pipe Along Path. Slightly different methodology, but similar result.

                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                      • jgbJ Offline
                        jgb
                        last edited by

                        @mitcorb said:

                        @helios: Not to disparage such a fine tool as Joint Push/Pull, but a possible alternative is Pipe Along Path. Slightly different methodology, but similar result.

                        Yes, but PAP is not a tool for this problem. I use PAP a lot and its main advantage is making a tube or pipe along an arbitrary path.

                        There are a few other solutions available to thicken the surface of a cylinder, or any shape, either in a straight line or a path. Follow-me is a so-so useful tool for a non-linear path. Making a circle with both inner and outer diameters then extruding the outer ring is probably best, but linear paths only.

                        However, JPP is the only tool I know of that will equally thicken all surfaces, linear or not, and even bent/wavy surfaces, which was the case indicated by @helios. Think of an hour-glass. ❗


                        jgb

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                        • H Offline
                          helios
                          last edited by

                          Thank you for the quick replies! It looks like this plugin is what I am after.

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                          • A Offline
                            ar_max
                            last edited by

                            Thank you very much.
                            Used to feel very good.
                            Sorry.
                            Not good at English. 😄

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                            • dereiD Offline
                              derei
                              last edited by

                              Is it JPP polygon-limited ?
                              I have a curved face and I wanted to add thickness to it. Unfortunately, JPP only affected a part of entire mesh.
                              See below.


                              JPP.jpg

                              DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                              • mitcorbM Offline
                                mitcorb
                                last edited by

                                Could it be that the faces were pulled internally because of the direction of your pull and the inference engine trying to snap to a vertex? I don't know, just asking.

                                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                • dereiD Offline
                                  derei
                                  last edited by

                                  @mitcorb said:

                                  Could it be that the faces were pulled internally because of the direction of your pull and the inference engine trying to snap to a vertex? I don't know, just asking.

                                  I'm not sure what you are asking...but if is what I think it is, it should be valid only for small distances and only for mouse movement. Or, I moved the mouse to avoid snapping and I input a value in VCB.

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Is it JPP polygon-limited ?
                                    I have a curved face and I wanted to add thickness to it. Unfortunately, JPP only affected a part of entire mesh.
                                    See below.

                                    JPP has a limit for displaying the feedback wireframe (5000 faces) but I don'th think I put one for the processing.
                                    I'll check that and come back.

                                    Fredo

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Fredo,

                                      I've Joint PushPull assigned to 'J' shortcut. When I select all geometry and press 'G' to 'Make Component' then 'Set component axis' if I press 'J' during the placing of the axis SU will Bugsplat.

                                      It doesn't do this for any other keyboard assigned plugin.
                                      It doesn't do it if nothing is assigned to 'J'.
                                      It doesn't do it if a native tool is assigned to 'J'.
                                      It doesn't do it if another plugin is assigned to 'J'.

                                      There are no messages in the Ruby Console. I'm using all the latest version of your plugins.

                                      I know that not pressing 'J' solves it

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                                      • H Offline
                                        helios
                                        last edited by

                                        After a few days, I'm still struggling to give one of my hollow models some thickness.

                                        I created a model that looks sort of like this (i.e. a curve spun around the Z axis):

                                        http://i.imgur.com/u1fl6.jpg

                                        I then select everything, click Joint Push/Pull, and enter a distance that is my desired thickness (e.g. 10mm). Some sort of calculation happens, but when I check on the model's thickness, it appears unchanged:

                                        http://i.imgur.com/hEeEs.jpg

                                        What am I doing wrong? How can I get the walls to be thicker?

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                                        • H Offline
                                          helios
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's the model in question itself (attached).


                                          Bell 6.skp.zip

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            It worked for me although I probably added the thickness in the wrong direction.

                                            After you select the JPP tool, hit TAB and make sure you've selected "Thickening". If you have "Erase Original Faces" selected, the original faces will get erased and you won't get the thickness. Another thing I did was split the operation into several smaller ones by selecting sections of the shape. I started at the bottom and selected just the surface below the belt and ran JPP on it. Then I worked my way up from there.


                                            Bell 6.skp

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