[Plugin][$] Curviloft 2.0a - 31 Mar 24 (Loft & Skinning)

jgb

I may be doing something wrong, but there is a very simple curve that Curviloft (CL) seems to have a problem with.

If I have 2 surfaces that I punch a hole in, say a round airplane fuselage that I put a round window or door opening in, CL won't face the rim of the opening.

After I delete the 2 wall bits in the opening, I select the 2 perimeters and call CL to do its magic. In effect, create the rim or ring. All I get are magenta lines.

If I join 1 pair of verticies, still no go. I have to draw 2 joiners (close together), and deselect the lines of the perimeter between the 2 joiners and CL does its magic in a flash.

This happens even to 2 rings in free space, unconnected to anything. I have to break both rings, then rejoin them after CL makes the curve.

Yet yesterday I made a large complex curved door, and CL rimmed it perfectly in 5 seconds, compared to 20 minutes or more to my making the perimeter manually. So I'm NOT complaining.

Fredo, as requested. The model I discovered this is way too big to upload, so I made an example.

I drew 2 rings offset in X, Y & Z axis.
Select 2 rings alone and CL will not form a rim.
Join rings with only 1 line, select all and CL creates a twisted rim.
Join rings with 2 lines and select all, no rim forms.
Deselect 2 bits of ring segment and CL forms proper rim.

As explained above, 4 sets of rings

hygicell

I am getting a lot of error messages on the Fredo6 plugins at startup of Sketchup 8 Pro:
please help
Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_10/CurviloftAlgo.rb
uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_10/CurviloftCurveMover.rb
uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_10/CurviloftLoader.rb
uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_10/CurviloftPalette.rb
uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_10/CurviloftTool.rb
uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_10/__loader.rb
undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_11/CurviloftAlgo.rb uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_11/CurviloftCurveMover.rb uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_11/CurviloftPalette.rb uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_11/CurviloftTool.rb uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_11/__loader.rb undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/CURVILOFT_Dir_11/bootstrap_Curviloft.rb
uninitialized constant Curviloft::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/FREDOSCALE_Dir_21/__loader.rb
undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/FREDOSCALE_Dir_21/bootstrap_FredoScale.rb (eval):1: uninitialized constant FredoScale::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/FREESCALE_Dir_10/FreeScale_Common.rb uninitialized constant FreeScale::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/FREESCALE_Dir_10/FreeScale_Tool.rb uninitialized constant FreeScale::SU_MAJOR_VERSIONError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/FREESCALE_Dir_10/__loader.rb undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/GHOSTCOMP_Dir_10/GhostCompAlgo.rb
uninitialized constant GhostComp::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/GHOSTCOMP_Dir_10/GhostCompLoader.rb
uninitialized constant GhostComp::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/GHOSTCOMP_Dir_10/__loader.rb
undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/HOVERSELECT_Dir_11/HoverSelect_Palette.rb uninitialized constant HoverSelect::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/HOVERSELECT_Dir_11/HoverSelect_main.rb uninitialized constant HoverSelect::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/HOVERSELECT_Dir_11/__loader.rb undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/ROUNDCORNER_Dir_22/__loader.rb
undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/ROUNDCORNER_Dir_22/bootstrap_RoundCorner.rb uninitialized constant RoundCorner::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/EraserOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/FreehandOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/LibOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/LineOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/OffsetAlgoOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/OffsetOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/PaletteOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/PolylineOnSurface.rb uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/__loader.rb undefined method effective_load' for nil:NilClassError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TOS_Dir_18/bootstrap_OnSurface.rb
uninitialized constant SUToolsOnSurface::T6Error Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/arc.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/attributes.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/babelfish.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/bezier.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/binary.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/bounds.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Lib2/color.rb
uninitialized constant TTError Loading File H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/ruby/singleton.rb
undefined method extend_object' for Singleton'

TIG

Frank

Sounds like you haven't got all of the files installed in the right places ?
Please reread the installation instructions.
Also see this thread for help on extracting zipped files and keeping their subfolder structure with Plugins etc http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=35746
Also if you have inadvertently put files directly into Plugins that ought to be within a subfolder, then please remove them as they might cause unexpected results as they will then auto-load at startup rather than when the main tool wants them to...

jgb

@unknownuser said:

Joel,

Can you post the model or a typical case, because I am not clear on the issue you face

Fredo

Fredo

I did! I appended it to my post, but so far no reply.

jeff hammond

@jgb said:

@unknownuser said:

Joel,

Can you post the model or a typical case, because I am not clear on the issue you face

Fredo

Fredo

I did! I appended it to my post, but so far no reply.

i can skin that thing with zero problems.
i think you might be using the wrong tool.. i think you're trying to use curviloft's Skinning when you should be using regular Loft (the first of the 3 icons in the toolbar)

just select the two rings then click on the Loft icon.

hygicell

@tig said:

Frank

Sounds like you haven't got all of the files installed in the right places ?
Please reread the installation instructions.
Also see this thread for help on extracting zipped files and keeping their subfolder structure with Plugins etc http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=35746
Also if you have inadvertently put files directly into Plugins that ought to be within a subfolder, then please remove them as they might cause unexpected results as they will then auto-load at startup rather than when the main tool wants them to...

I have reinstalled everything as per the instructions
then ran duplicate cleaner 2.0 to find any .rb leftovers from the previous installation directly into plugins folder and erased them

the problem remains

should I be looking for other files than with the .rb extension and erase these duplicates too?

Frank

TIG

Please don't start removing files willy-nilly.
Only the the files inside the subfolders that have equivalents wrongly installed in Plugins are to be removed - it's recommended that these put into a 'disabled folder' [erasing them is a little drastic - especially when you are not sure what you are doing - at least that way they can be moved back if you've messed up !]. There will also be .rb files in Plugins installed by other tools that you still need! AND of course there are .rb files installed as 'loaders' to run files inside subfolders that come in the zip file 'loose' rather than in a subfolder of Plugins...

If you are getting similar error messages then are you sure the files and files in relative subfolders are installed properly. I noticed that you have a drive with an unusual path - H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/ - the default is something like C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/
Please type this in the Ruby Console + <enter> and post the results $LOAD_PATH
It should include your H: folder Plugins path.
With Vista/Win7 there can be a 'Compatibility Files' issue [¿Archivos de Compatibilidad?]... which happens if you don't have full security permissions to read/write/etc to the the Plugins folder and/or its subfolders and/or files. It looks like you have done it OK, and there are no error messages... but really the OS has put the new things in a separate subfolder to protect you from yourself! In these cases there's a 'Compatibility Files' button added to the top of the window of the affect folder[s] - you click on that to see what's messed up... Fix your permissions under properties, security as an admin...

Can you post a screen-shot showing your Plugins folder structure etc if none of this is working...

hygicell

@tig said:

Please don't start removing files willy-nilly.
Only the the files inside the subfolders that have equivalents wrongly installed in Plugins are to be removed - it's recommended that these put into a 'disabled folder' [erasing them is a little drastic - especially when you are not sure what you are doing - at least that way they can be moved back if you've messed up !]. There will also be .rb files in Plugins installed by other tools that you still need! AND of course there are .rb files installed as 'loaders' to run files inside subfolders that come in the zip file 'loose' rather than in a subfolder of Plugins...

If you are getting similar error messages then are you sure the files and files in relative subfolders are installed properly. I noticed that you have a drive with an unusual path - H:/programmas/google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/ - the default is something like C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/
Please type this in the Ruby Console + <enter> and post the results $LOAD_PATH
It should include your H: folder Plugins path.
With Vista/Win7 there can be a 'Compatibility Files' issue [¿Archivos de Compatibilidad?]... which happens if you don't have full security permissions to read/write/etc to the the Plugins folder and/or its subfolders and/or files. It looks like you have done it OK, and there are no error messages... but really the OS has put the new things in a separate subfolder to protect you from yourself! In these cases there's a 'Compatibility Files' button added to the top of the window of the affect folder[s] - you click on that to see what's messed up... Fix your permissions under properties, security as an admin...

Can you post a screen-shot showing your Plugins folder structure etc if none of this is working...

I have installed Sketchup 8 pro on an external disk so I can easily take it with me
my other plugins work fine

? Only the the files inside the subfolders that have equivalents wrongly installed in Plugins are to be removed ?
would it not be the other way round?
I removed the equivalents in the plugins folder and left the ones in the subfolders

H;\programmas\google\Google SketchUp 8\Plugins\
2DTools\
AutoCenterPoint\
clf_simple_loft\
ctsMaker\
CURVILOFT_Dir_11\
DEFPARAM_Dir\
Dom_brevenchatij\
DoorTools\
DWGExport\
Examples\
FREDOSCALE_Dir_21\
FREESCALE_Dir_10\
GHOSTCOMP_Dir_10\
HOVERSELECT_Dir_11\
JPP_Dir\
JPP_Dir_15\
Layer Manager\
layers\
ldd\
LIBFREDO6_Dir_37\
Ocean\
Projection\
RDE_Dir\
ROUNDCORNER_Dir_23\
ruby\
skin\
SoapSkinBubble\
TIGtools\
TOS_Dir_18\
TT_Lib2\
Utilities\
WindowTools\
0.skb
1.skb
2.skb
2D#.rb
3.skb
AddVertex+.rb
Align User Guide.pdf
align_2D.rb
align_tool.rb
AllowDWGImportInSketchUp7.msi
arc_centerpoint.rb
auto_centerpoint.rb
Big_32.png
BzRoundEdge.rb
cadspan.rbs
calc.rb
CenterPoint.rb
Chamfer_Along_Path.rb
clf_color_by_slope.rb
clf_simple_loft_loader.rb
closeopens.rb
closeopens_icon.png
Cloud Quick Tutorial.pdf
Cloud V6.pdf
cloud_v6.rb
co_tool.html
co_toola.rb
ComponentReporter+.rb
config-thumb.jpg
ConstructFaceNormal.rb
curve_maker.rb
curvestitcher.rb
deBabelizer.rb
delauney2.rb
demeter-main.rbs
DoorTool.txt
DoorTools.rb
DWGExport.rbs
engineeringtoolbox.rb
examp_les.rb
example.dat
examples.rb
extrudeEdgesByEdges.rb
f2f.rb
f2f_cursor.gif
faceFlattener019.rb
file.php
FilletTool.rb
fixSolid.rb
flightpathtool.rb
GetCentroid.rb
GetDimensions.rb
hide_faces_edges.rb
hideall.htm
hidetool.rb
jf_follow_this.rb
jf_spheretool.rb
jointpushpull.rb
kml_mesh_exporter.rb
ky_Delete_Interior_Faces.rb
ky_Group_PushPull_2DFaces.rb
Layer Manager v6.pdf
layer_manager_extension_v5.rb
layer_manager_extension_v6.rb
Layer_manager_install.jpg
layer_manager_v5.txt
layerbymaterial.rb
layers.rb
layers_materials.rb
layers_show_hide_all.rb
ldd.rbs
LibFredo6.rb
LibTraductor.def
LibTraductor.rb
Lines2Components.rb
load_sketchapps.rb
lsystem.rb
makefaces(2).rb
makefaces.rb
makeNamedGroup.rb
manifold.rb
massmaterialimporter.rb
Mirror_31.rb
move_to_origin.rb
move_to_origin_and_center.rb
moveit.rb
new.txt
nudge.rb
numbered_grid.rb
ocean_extension.rb
Organizer.rb
organizerEdit.log
pageLayers.rb
Paint_back_faces v2.0.rb
parking.rb
pathcopy.rb
perp_line_plane.rb
PipeAlongPath.rb
plugins_help.rb
plugins_help_TIG.rb
pnts2mesh.rb
points_cloud_triangulation.rb
ProgressBar.rb.htm
Projection Documentation.pdf
Projection.pdf
projection_extension.rb
PurgeAll.rb
push_pull_vector.rb
PutOnLayer_bmw.rb
PutOnLayer_ForPublicRelease.rb
rci.png
read_me.txt
reglue.rb
rename_comp_inst.rb
repaint_face.rb
repair_broken_lines.rb
Roof.rb
roofplanfollower.rb
rot90.rb
rps_texturewrite.rb
scene_rename.rb
sceneExporter.rb
screw_21.rb
script_loader.rb
SectionCutFace.rb
simplify.rb
SimplifyContours.rb
skin.rb
Small_16.png
SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt
SoapSkinBubbleTools.rb
Srub.rb
stair_maker062.rb
stitcher.rb
stock_maker.rb
stray_lines.rb
sublend.rb
taper_maker.rb
Terrain Reshaper User guide.pdf
terrain_reshaper.rb
TextTag14.rb
tf.rb
toolbar.rb
trim_extend.rb
tt_cleanup.rb
tt_solid_inspector.rb
unfoldtool.png
unfoldtool.rb
unhide_all.htm
unhide_all.rb
utilities.rb
utilities_10.rb
vector.flat_angle.rb
viewMemory.rb
VolumeCalculator21.rb
weld.rb
Win32API.so
WindowTools.rb
ZLoader__OnSurface.rb
zone.rb
zoom_selection.rb
Zorro.rb

jeff hammond

@hygicell said:

my other plugins work fine

WindowTools.rb
ZLoader__OnSurface.rb
zone.rb

according to that list, all your other plugins aren't working fine..

you're missing the ZLoader files that come with many of fredo's plugins.. the only one you have is tools on surface but i suspect your round corner, curviloft, and fredoscale aren't working either (amongst others?)

screen 2011-06-25 at 10.54.52 AM.jpg

TIG

First:
Only the the files inside the subfolders that have equivalents wrongly installed in the Plugins folder are to be removed... from the Plugins folder...
What you did is correct.

Second:
You do seem to have several Zloader .rb files missing from that Plugins folder - like Zloader_Curviloft.rb - this might be the root cause of your problem - do you perhaps have them in another folder that might also be on your $LOAD_PATH ?
And then they can't load other files are the paths gets tangled up...
Did you get the $LOAD_PATH in the Ruby Console ?
Mine says ["C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins", "C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Tools"] yours should also include the H: path ?

..\Plugins\LIBFREDO6_Dir_37\Lib6Core_37.rb; line#225; txt = "T6 = Traductor::T6Mod.new(#{hmod}, '#{path}', '#{rootname}') "
line#226; hmod.module_eval txt

This is the code that sets the constant T6 to have a certain value and typing in the Ruby Console
Curviloft::T6
should show this, which is a Traductor::T6Mod object used to translate between languages; it is complex looking list of code, elements, hashes etc...

It seems that ..\Plugins\LIBFREDO6_Dir_37\Lib6Core_37.rb is not being run properly...
Does the file exist ?
If so are it's properties set so 'you' can see it and read it etc...?
Trying typing load LIBFREDO6_Dir_37\Lib6Core_37.rb + <enter> into the Ruby Console and see if it returns true and if CurviLoft then works... it'll only be a temporary fix but at least we then step on one pace...

If you type this in the Ruby Console +<enter> what is returned ?
Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
I get
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins
You must include the H: path to your Plugins... otherwise Fredo's LibFredo6.rb will fail at lines#26/27
require 'LibTraductor.rb' if Sketchup.find_support_file( 'LibTraductor.rb', "Plugins" )#Compatibility require 'TOS_Dir_13/LibTraductor_20.rb' if Sketchup.find_support_file( 'TOS_Dir_13/LibTraductor_20.rb', "Plugins" )#Compatibility
Otherwise when it doesn't find these files they are not loaded and so the T6 constant never gets defined...
You could rewrite those two lines using a plain-test editor like Notepad[++].exe - as
require 'LibTraductor.rb' if File.exist?(File.join(File.dirname(__FILE__), 'LibTraductor.rb'))#Compatibility require 'TOS_Dir_13/LibTraductor_20.rb' if File.exist?(File.join(File.dirname(__FILE__), TOS_Dir_13, LibTraductor_20.rb)#Compatibility
I think the second one is not important as the first one gets loaded anyway...
Now it will always load the files found relative to it even on some obscure drive, rather than the default C:...

hygicell

@unknownuser said:

@hygicell said:

my other plugins work fine

WindowTools.rb
ZLoader__OnSurface.rb
zone.rb

according to that list, all your other plugins aren't working fine..

you're missing the ZLoader files that come with many of fredo's plugins.. the only one you have is tools on surface but i suspect your round corner, curviloft, and fredoscale aren't working either (amongst others?)

[attachment=0:ia8g6goq]screen 2011-06-25 at 10.54.52 AM.jpg[/attachment:ia8g6goq]

I had those and the Fredo plugins did't work then
as a test I removed them as I thought they were redundant
I will have to reinstall
have you seen any files I have to remove?
Frank

TIG

Do you have another folder Sketchup with some stuff in it, say on the C:drive for example...
Is Curviloft somehow trying to load even when its Zloader is removed ??

Have you read through my last diatribe...

jgb

@unknownuser said:

i can skin that thing with zero problems.
i think you might be using the wrong tool.. i think you're trying to use curviloft's Skinning when you should be using regular Loft (the first of the 3 icons in the toolbar)

just select the two rings then click on the Loft icon.

And Right you are!

I guess I was so used to skinning my constructs I just forgot about the other 2 functions.

Thanks.

fredo6

NEW RELEASE: Curviloft 1.1b - 27 Jun 11

This is a small upgrade to handle the problem of mean curves between contours.
Previous versions were only able to generate the junction curves. This one adds the intermediate curves. And you get the mesh by selecting both options.

Thanks to Jeff Hammond for the suggestion to use Curviloft for generate mean curves between contours
See also discussion at this post on the question of mean curves.

See main post for download

Fredo

Gaieus

@unknownuser said:

NEW RELEASE: Curviloft 1.1b - 27 Jun 11

This is a small upgrade to handle the problem of mean curves between contours.

Thanks Fredo.

It seems to be such an important release however that it travelled faster than light and arrived the previous day...

(You are in the same time zone as me if I am not mistaken)

TIG

Thomthom also lost [gained?] a day earlier today!
Perhaps there's a time-warp out and about

thomthom

Yeh see?! It's just you lot still stuck behind in yesterday! Keep with the time!

pilou

Maybe Earth's axis are moving during the night!

jgb

There is a simple explanation for the time warp. Fredo, whom I believe resides in France, simply sent the update Eastward to us and when it crossed the Pacific Date line, voila, it is tomorrow.

Besides, Curviloft can save you far more than a day's work, so the time warp is justified.

TIG

And of course in Norway they only have two days Summer and Winter...