Most annoying SU behavior

otb designworks · 6 Oct 2010, 21:30

has got to be that a new layer is on by default on every scene.

So, if I have a model with 25 scenes, all set up nicely for Layout, and I need to add a new layer for something or another, then I have to manually go through all 25 scenes and turn it back off?!

By far, for me, the most inefficient aspect of SU. And counterintuitive as heck; new layers should be OFF by default.

dedmin · 6 Oct 2010, 21:44

Use this plugin - http://www.srww.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/layers.zip

jgb · 7 Oct 2010, 12:44

The s/w behind scenes is a work-in-progress, with no progress.

You can only have 1 scene set, and it sits there at screen top. It is cumbersome to edit, and gives only a single timing scenario for the entire set.

What's needed is a scenes library/manager, where you can define any number of scene sets and call them up as desired, for edit or display.

You should be able to set a time-on-screen for each scene as well as a time for transition.

It does a nice smooth pan/zoom between transitions, but no fades. A few transition (2 or 3 tops) fades would be nice, maybe even a morphing transition.

As stated above by OTB Designworks layer management needs to be overhauled, with more control over handling new layers, and globally on layers within sub sets of scenes.

You also need a way to cycle a sub-set of scenes for testing or close review, rather than only the full play as is now.

There are probably several other enhancements that could be done, but I haven't played with scenes enough to define them yet.

otb designworks · 7 Oct 2010, 12:55

I really like the idea of scene sets; I had never thought of that as an option. I could see that being quite useful

Much thanks for that plugin link; that is going to improve things around here!

otb designworks · 7 Oct 2010, 13:37

On further review, this ruby does nothing on my system.

It gives me the input dialogue windows, but no new layers appear, and the hide/show layers has no effect either.

Maybe a MAC thing or a SU8 thing?

Gaieus · 7 Oct 2010, 13:54

Try Jim's plugin then:
http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2007/08/add-hidden-layer.html

otb designworks · 7 Oct 2010, 16:02

Perfect! Much thanks.

John Sayers · 25 Oct 2010, 00:02

I find it annoying that the program always opens with the line tool instead of the select arrow.

TIG · 25 Oct 2010, 08:19

@john sayers said:

I find it annoying that the program always opens with the line tool instead of the select arrow.

You need this [free] http://www.smustard.com/script/SelectAtStartup

tfdesign · 25 Oct 2010, 09:44

That's odd. It must be a PC thing because the Mac version (or my Mac version anyway) starts with the selection tool. A windows bug?

Edit; Is it something to do with how you've saved a template as? I always make my own template. Perhaps the default starts with the line tool, and making a template, to get rid of Sang, would leave you with the selection tool, which is then saved as a tool pref with the template?

honoluludesktop · 25 Oct 2010, 10:20

Tom, Not 100% sure, but I think he means when you select a skp from Sketchup.

thomthom · 25 Oct 2010, 10:32

@tfdesign said:

That's odd. It must be a PC thing because the Mac version (or my Mac version anyway) starts with the selection tool. A windows bug?

Edit; Is it something to do with how you've saved a template as? I always make my own template. Perhaps the default starts with the line tool, and making a template, to get rid of Sang, would leave you with the selection tool, which is then saved as a tool pref with the template?

Are you sure you don't have a plugin installed that modifies this? because there is no option in SU nativly to set which tool SU should activate by default. It's hard-coded to the Pencil tool.

tfdesign · 25 Oct 2010, 11:06

@thomthom said:

Are you sure you don't have a plugin installed that modifies this? because there is no option in SU nativly to set which tool SU should activate by default. It's hard-coded to the Pencil tool.

Nope (I am 100% sure!).

To be honest, I've only got a couple of plugins installed, and that's not one of them. Try saving a template with a tool ready to use. It's just an idea.

thomthom · 25 Oct 2010, 11:15

@tfdesign said:

Try saving a template with a tool ready to use. It's just an idea.

No - it's not model specific.

tfdesign · 25 Oct 2010, 11:36

Well I can't explain that at all. But my default is always the select tool.

edit, I'm still on 7.1 btw.

thomthom · 25 Oct 2010, 11:43

Could be yet another one of SketchUp's "consistencies"...

wind-borne · 25 Oct 2010, 16:32

@thomthom said:

@tfdesign said:

That's odd. It must be a PC thing because the Mac version (or my Mac version anyway) starts with the selection tool. A windows bug?

Edit; Is it something to do with how you've saved a template as? I always make my own template. Perhaps the default starts with the line tool, and making a template, to get rid of Sang, would leave you with the selection tool, which is then saved as a tool pref with the template?

Are you sure you don't have a plugin installed that modifies this? because there is no option in SU nativly to set which tool SU should activate by default. It's hard-coded to the Pencil tool.

My Mac always opens with Selection tool, on 6,7 or 8. I don't have any plugins on 6.

thomthom · 25 Oct 2010, 16:43

how about that. I just fired up my own Mac.
sigh why do they keep on doing things differently for the platforms....

tfdesign · 25 Oct 2010, 17:29

It's a bug then? But for which platform? I can see the usefulness of SU starting with either tool.

thomthom · 25 Oct 2010, 20:15

I wish it was the Select tool that was default, I use that more often than the pencil.