@unknownuser said:

.... Perhaps you could test it for me -- I don't have a computer with Mavericks.

I will sure be glad to give it a try, Doug.
Your plugin is a must for me.
updt: Received a beta, works just fine.
updt: New version 1.8.4 available on the Regular Polygon website.

@tig said:

So to recap... ...
So anyone experiencing issues like this with remote url dialogs Mavericks-only should check that their dialog includes the allow_actions_from_host(string) AND that it has a good 'string' that is a 'domain' and not a 'url' [or a typo!]... ...

Hum... will this also correct the "Java Script disabled" problem ?

Here, LightUp (pre-last update), just opened the preferences pane blank, no message.
and
Keyframe Animation cannot run saying Java Script needs to be enabled, but it is.
Adam, any clue on this JS bug ?

yes on 10.8.4 as well.

"Allow applications downloaded from" is set to -Mac App store and identified devs..
euh.. why

@unknownuser said:

right.. all is functioning normally* on my computers (a macpro and a mbp).. 10.7 on the mp & 10.8 on the mbp..
su 8 pro and sketchup make2013 on both

Oh ! I did not realized that. I thought you also had the problem.
Mountain Lion ? 10.8.5 ?

Hi Jeff,
I did more than trash de prefs, I deleted all the app and its files (with an app delete soft).
Re-installed, only Solar North is visible at first launch, but then no more. And same bug for other palettes.
Looked at the com.sketchup.SketchUp.plist file, all toolbar integers are set to 1, indeed.
But do you mean that you do not have this bug on your OS X?

Here is, hopefully, another clue.
The toolbar of Flattery is always on,
and that of Mirror is always off.

Ckeched with a friend, he has same trouble.

Could it be in there ? User/Library/Saved Application State

Yes, those SU toolbars are always off at start. (ruby extensions)
But the toolbars of added plugins are always on OR off, until I play with the script.
For instance LIghtUp and Subsmooth are always ON, but
Fredoscale, Keyframe Animationand TOS are always OFF,
to name just a few.
There are a lot of different ways of coding the toolbar display in the scripts out there.

Updt: Even Fredo's newly updated plugins still are off at launch. Maybe this has to be settled with somebody at Apple.

Updt: Looks like a Toolbar last_state is always set to 0 at launch. Is it possible that the TB (or it's variable) is recreated at each launch ? I'm no coder ...

p.s.: Let's stick to the floating toolbars for now.
And address the mac top toolbar later since the problem is half solved (by opening a new window).

@chris fullmer said:

So is it common that the DC, Sandbox, Advanced Camera tools, and Photo textures toolbars always turn themselves off on your macs?
Chris

Hi Chris, for me it's been like that for a quite while now, and today still on 3 different Macs.
I will try and ask around other Mac users.
In fact, all ruby extensions show this behaviour here.
For my main ones, I play with the "toolbar" code (adding ##) in the ruby script until they always stay on.

This is unbelievable !!
After all this time this problem has not been resolved !
On OS X, some tool palettes behave well, others never show at launch.
For plugins, well, I can live with it.
BUT this is true for some SU native palettes too !!
Below two screen grabs: First, set all palettes to display. Quit SU. 2nd Re-launch SU =
How can toolbar settings of some palettes be coded right and some others wrong !!

ahg !! Now with 2013, the custom icon button is even gone from the "Save as" dialog.

Well Jim,
I guess I have been working with SU for so long now, and got so used to it, cause I seem to always find a way to make dimensions work for me. Be it in parallel views or 3D. It does take a while to integrate dimensioning in 3D. One has to forget 2D habits.
Using the Advanced settings, especially "Hide when foreshortened", helps a lot.
Yes, It, indeed, involves a lot of switching between SU & LO. It got faster with 2013.

@arail1 said:

The moral of this story - Layout dimensions work in 2D views but not in perspective views.

Exactly !!
I would add;
Dimensions in SU works very well, and are linked to model, so they follows modifications. They should be used the most.
LO dimensions are good for minor or quick additions and 2Ds.
my 2¢.

@arcad-uk said:

My top two:

SU - Real arcs/circles.

Layout - Entity creation tools that retain their layer setting.

+1

@davidheim1 said:

Didier,
It asks me for the name of a file to export to, but won't ever let me export anything.
David Heim

Same here. It happens with the one loaded from SketchUcation store.
But the one on CRAI Ruby depot, loaded the old way, manually, works.

On MAc, with SU 2013, the HD///SketchUp 2013//Plugins folder does not exist.
So only the User/library/application support/SketchUp 2013/SketchUP/Plugins.

@unknownuser said:

Il y a quand même des millions de gens qui l'utilisent

Il faut voir avec les utilisateurs de Mac !

Et bien, de mon coté (de l'Atlantique), sous OS 10.8.2, je n'ai pas de plantage fréquent.
Occasionnel, oui, mais pas régulier.
Et j'enseigne SU avec, sans problème.
Je pense que ça dépend des configurations des machines.

Alors la page "Téléchargement" du site français est de la fausse représentation ??

Euh... je ne trouve toujours pas la version française de cette version M4. Pas encore sortie ?
Je viens de télécharger une version fr et elle affiche les anciennes icônes et porte le # 8.0.14345.
La version anglaise (nouvelles icônes) porte 8.0.15157.

Boy! you guys are reallllly helpful.
I just got a request for my model in STP format. So first thought, look up in my favourite forum. Sure enough ! bingo !
They think I'm the genius.
We know better.