lol I believe you were the one calling newbies a bunch of wankers. . .

Both tbh, I've been using su for about 4 years now but have only recently started using sucation as a way of reaching out for advice. However, the people from whom I am wanting criticism the most consider themselves too 'expert' to post on a 'wankers' wip thread. Splitting the forum will not make this problem any better, and SuCation will move further away from the less experienced community, leaving a lot of people behind.

If the gallery is split between newbies and pro's then the pro's won't help the newbies, plain and simple. pro's will be happy that they are free of said newbie and won't go to the newbie thread to help out, meaning that the situation won't change a single bit.

looks good, but A bit of work is needed on the floor where the dark turns to light, maybe a bit of blending needed there, it's a soft fade on the wall but like a shadow on the floor.

What's wrong with the way it is? All I'm hearing at the moment is a load of people who don't like newbies, and so want to get them out of the gallery???

@bytor said:

it is becoming increasingly difficult to find as much "value" for my time while looking through the gallery section.

@unknownuser said:

There is not an ounce of skill in those types of models. I also have stopped commenting on many of the works I have seen here. When I was commenting I was trying to give advice which falls of young deaf ears

@mike lucey said:

How about we change the name of the Gallery to Gallery Showcase or Showcase Gallery and only allow high quality content including Works In Progress by experts.

@mike lucey said:

I have a feeling that some experts are not be too inclined to mix their work with Newbies

@mike lucey said:

If feelings are hurt, so be it

@baz said:

the dread of the newbie multitudes, come to overrun us.

@baz said:

I believe that we do need some deliniation between those who are serious about su and related things, and those who are...how to say?.... wankers...

It seems nobody is seeing this from the "newbie's" perspective. We come on this forum and see a gallery, full of very high quality models and renders. Granted most of them are either buildings or cars, but said newbie decides that he shall post his work to get a response. Now I realise that some people have their head up their arse and get pissed off if they get anything other than pure praise. However, some of these newbies actually come onto this forum to get a proper response from the 'pros'. It seems however that the so called 'wanker' has made the majority of these 'pros' stay away from the newbie threads because they can't be arsed to help anymore? So I ask this: if you're not willing to teach the newbie, then how will newbie learn? Break up the Gallery if you like, but it won't do any good for the less experienced community.

Fair enough, may be a bit tricky getting the ai to do that but I'll see what I can do

Cheers mate, but how can I improve? Saying it's 'awesome' over and over again is all very well and good but it's not helping me at all. The reason I put this topic up is so that I can improve from other people's criticism, not as a showcase.

Much better yeah

well down the far end of the building it doesn't look right, it might be too bright, idk, it just looks funny

Starting work on a track, working against a mate to make the next track for motorsketch 2. I myself am making a fictional WRC super special stage:

I think I may be one of the annoyances that you are talking about. I post wip's to get constructive criticism, which I try my best to act upon. Even so, I agree that a wip thread is needed, and that the gallery should have sections for "common" posts such as renders, cars, and creators that have specific wip threads for all their works.

Little bit more work, moved one of the solar panels, put the name on it, and added a bit more detail to the head

Fraid not, followed the tut to the letter, there was the result

yeah I like it without the reflections more

@unknownuser said:

non sketchyphysics

Yeah basically. The organic modelling sounds good, i've never even thought of doing that, looks very difficult, but i shall try. I'll see what I can do with circuits as well. No progress on the serenity, been working on Nola's louisiana sketchyphysics. Now then, time to learn organics

My first post, it's for a project I decided to start about an hour ago now, for the firefly spaceship from the film "Serenity" and the series "Firefly". Anyways, here is the real thing:

This is my first sci-fi model so i'm not really expecting good results, but i'll keep going and see what happens
Here is my current progress after about half an hours worth of modelling:

Done a bit more on the wing/engine connector:

And also remodelled the head:

looks good

Thanks Liam, heeding your advice I decided to do some work on the engine:

And as a result of this I am currently modifying the wings to fit the new engines:

It was mentioned earlier about me learning about circuit building and also organic modelling. No work yet on the circuit front I'm afraid, but I had a look at BTM's organic tutorial and have so far got this: