Beautifully done. I supose there not ADA compliant ether. (Ha)

Thank you!!!! I was pulling my hair out. Man I love this website.

I was really hoping for some attribute extraction and scheduling. Improvements to layout are welcome but a little poultry. Maintenance money sure feels like autodesk subscription scheme...money for nothing.

This is where I admit I know nothing about writing ruby scripts.

@tig said:

Doesn't Jim's GreyscaleMode tool do it for you ??
Linked from here http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=88720#p88720

Just downloaded and tried Jim's Greyscale and color saturation is way to high. Maybe we can get Jim to write it soit goes to 256,256,256.

I have been struggling with this problem. I had hoped you could save a bunch of materials in color and monochrome and just import to swap between them but sadly that did not work. For now I just edit each material in a copy of the model using the eyedropper to quickly change whatever color they are to the default background color. It takes a few minutes but works well. I'm hoping one of the ruby geniuses on this site will pick up the thread and make the magic happen. Here is an example of the results.

Elevations from SU model

@pbacot said:

What do you hope not, Nick? Or you hope it is never standardized?

You mean each of us must create his or her own textures and these will always be recognizable by all, even neophytes?

I was hoping your pattern library would be available ($) . (Though I am far from doing such details myself, this might get me there sooner).

To hell with the neophytes! (Ok just kidding, well sort of) I think simple hatch patterns will always have a place in architectural drawing. I like to just remove all the color from materials (will someone write me a plug in to change them back and forth from color to monochrome) What I want is copies of everybodies scrapbooks. How come there is no scrapbook warehouse ? (yes I'm lazy)

@kmead said:

I guess our cohort who suggests that a man of firmness and virtue (I wonder if a woman could possibly be such an individual?) didn't take the time to watch the videos of the college students attempting to do just that and failing miserably. A few of them appeared to be of real firmness and virtue. Even the young lady who acquitted herself remarkably well failed to really have an effect on the situation.

I grew up in a very rural place in northern New England and used to hunt for food. When I was a hunter, the fish and game department rules for semi automatic weapons were that they could not have more then five rounds in the clip (or have a clip that held more than 5 rounds). I never needed more than two. Why anyone would argue they need a twenty/thirty etc round clip for any weapon used for hunting is beyond my understanding. If you can't take it down in under five you need to spend a lot more time at the range.

Sadly in this case no amount of gun control legislation would have solved the problem of keeping this individual from getting a weapon: he had no record of any kind to keep him from successfully getting any weapon he desired. Had he been properly treated for his mental illness he would have been much less likely to have felt the need to perform this heinous act and his mother would have known she had to keep those guns locked up, as all guns should be, away from the mentally infirm. Appropriate treatment would also have generated a record/paper trail that would show up in a proper background check keeping him from easily getting such a weapon.

Ultimately we will try and treat the effect and not the causes of this and all those other tragedies. Gun control is one of the answers, as in not having military grade killing tools all over (AK47 M16 etc related weapons).

Taking proper care of the mentally ill which requires not only a change in the care, but a change in the social attitude about such care, so those who need it will receive it, is a critical action on a national and state level to solve. This is not only a legislative change but a social engineering change so people who are clearly not normal or "right" need to be assisted by their families and the communities they live in, not leaving them to molder in homes or their apartments to descend into a madness the rest of us cannot understand or control.

Ok, yes of course females too. I have no problem taking away asault rifles. But with proper training and qualification we as a society must protect ourselves by the time the cops get there all they can do is clean up the mess. Sorry but that's the truth and we can't unmake guns. Have a super sparkly day.

@unknownuser said:

301 Moved Permanently

(gunowners.org)

He's entitled to his opinion, obviously, however devoid of commons sense it may be, but the timing!

Let me ask you this. If you could magically transport a man of firmness and virtue into this situation which would you hope he was carrying a book or a gun?

All that is nessasary for evil to prevail is for good men to stand idlely by.

Arm yourself!

My apologies for not responding to the comments here. I started this and then got busy and did not receive any notifications so I thought it went unnoticed.

I think Revit is a monster because its slow as molasis in January, crashes and is not the least bit intuitive to use and my subscription cost close to $700.00/ yr to maintain. After 30 years of autodesk the freedom and ease of use of SU is refreshing and OMG fun!

Just for fun is there anybody besides me that thinks if there are big improvements in LO and SU like data extraction, scheduleing etc. that autodesk will swoop in buy the whole thing and ether kill it or turn it into a monster like they did Architectural Desktop and Revit.

Another aspect to this is that an Architect will communicate in a variety of styles and the casual styles reflect the conceptual nature of the presentation and seem to imply that they should not be taken to literally. Conversely as the design development continues everything becomes more precise and a more disaplined drawing technic is usually employed.

I think this is one of the reasons I love sketchup and layout because I can change the style effortlessly. I have seen clients become nervous when presented with a concept in a hard line format.

One more thing, good sheet composition and organization of information is always high on my list.

@pbacot said:

@ccaponigro said:

Thought I would jump in here. I'm pretty new to sketchup but have 30 years of acad disappointment under my belt. Right now I use Architectural Desktop for plans and schedules and creating a model from them for all my elevations and layout to present them. I wanted them to look like b/w CD's so I saved the model and changed all the textures to have no color.

Really nice work! Thanks for posting and the information.
A trick I have used in LO to hide the terrain and create a ground line: trace along the ground line in LO, making a polygon- complete the polygon, below, to mask the terrain with fill, make a duplicate and trim this to use as a thick ground line (without fill)

Thanks! I like that idea and it sure wouldn't hurt to get that terrain turned off.

Here is another idea. I draw lines in the model and use xline from smusterd.com to change them into guide lines which are dashed. Its crude but at least you can coordinate them right on your model. So if you’re not to persnickety about line type it works and you can place them on layers or hide then as you see fit.

Thought I would jump in here. I'm pretty new to sketchup but have 30 years of acad disappointment under my belt. Right now I use Architectural Desktop for plans and schedules and creating a model from them for all my elevations and layout to present them. I wanted them to look like b/w CD's so I saved the model and changed all the textures to have no color. I would love to do everything in layout but it is hard to give up all the bim and attribute extraction. This is a real project with real clients so it was a leap of faith since I had never used sketchup for a real project before this. We have a permit and it's under construction. The clients love being able to see the model. Constructive criticisum welcome.

I know the grade is rough but I'm flying by the seat of my pants here.

Try drawing this in autocad I dare you.

And some design development for the interiors.