Folks - I've msg'd both Ben and Stan, but please send in your Bugsplat reports, and if you put your e-mail and contact our support group (help->Contact Us and file a bug), we'll look at these. We typically attack the top 3-5 crashes, and if you're experiencing one of these, we may have workarounds for you or we can test your file against a new fixed version of Layout. Thanks for your help, but I need a few more details from all y'all.
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First off, LayOut is 2.1, not 7.1. Is there a common reason why you're crashing? I can look at your bugsplats and see if there's a common thread if you put your e-mail and comments in there. We've had less crashing in this release than other ones, but there are always issues. I searched quickly based on your name on this list, and I don't see any, so any info would be helpful.
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No problem... it does depend on what you're coming from to understand some of the things about SketchUp. When I started, I was not accustomed to being able to modify things after the second click (via the Measurements box / VCB). But after you get into SketchUp, it's a real joy to use, as displayed by my many feeble attempts at humor and fun.
So I'm guessing a typical SketchUp user would draw a line, select it, select the rotate tool, click on one end, click on the other end, hold down option (I'm on Mac) to copy move, rotate a bit and then type "45" and return and have 2 lines, same length, 45º angle.
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I attempted to answer your other post. "I think you're mis-understanding angle snap", Barry snapped.
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Yup, David's on to it. You order frontmost by layer, then by items on that layer. So if you want the dimensions in front, drag the layer to the top of the layer list. If your model only has one layer, then right click on the model and select Arrange->Send to Back, or select the model and do the same from the menu item Arrange.
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Mac drivers are done by Apple and vendor (Intel, in this case). Turn off HW Accel for this card.
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Check your XP - we turn off HW Acceleration for certain cards on PC. If that's the case, do the same for Mac.
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Zilonx, since that file is huge, just delete the models and images in /ref and zip up the rest and we'll take a look.
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If it's not in the pageX.xml file, nested inside some rtf tags, then it could be in a shared layer, which would be in document.xml.
If you have a LOT of text to put in, you can insert RTF, just as you can models or images.
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Yea, on PC, the Measurements box never gets highlighted, and for some reason on Mac, it does and then doesn't accept input. You can make it go away by tabbing out of the Measurements box or making sure it isn't highlighted. We're looking at it.
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(see, I can forget "VCB" if I want too)
Send the file to Help->Contact Us (file a bug) and attach the file, and I'll fix. Here's how I do it: I usually start by saving different versions, doing a binary tree of eliminating 1/2 the items / layers / pages, etc... to get down to where the trouble lies. Once you have the exact source of the problem, then, as others mentioned, unzip the file, then look at the xml elements, and fix / remove / change.
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Like I said - if you're happy with SketchUp dimensions, use them. Nothing has changed for you and you should be happy. AFAIK, you can change font and size and that's it (it also stays the same size depending on zoom level, which doesn't work well for printing). If you want to change dimension style, have better prints or presentations, use LayOut. My point was to simply say, you can match the dimension style of SketchUp in LayOut if you want, or change it to your needs.
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p.s. - you can make whatever style you want. So which one of the dimensions here is from SketchUp, which one from LayOut, and why (see attached)?
Yea, but that video wasn't posted yesterday. For those of you scoring at home, the video we're referring to was in sketchupdate.blogspot.com or directly on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ftd8l7UD4 and look for the end of it for a visual of how to do this. Although my suggestion would still be to create a scrapbook of the styles you want (fonts, line endings, colors line weights) so they're easily sampled and applied.
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Tim, not sure I see your point. You want crappy SketchUp dimensions in LayOut? Try printing them.
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Hi, Gjenio - you're correct: if the model changes a bunch, then we will not stick to geometry as you would hope. We're looking into this, but it wasn't doable in 7.1. The workaround really is to wait with dimensions until your model is not undergoing big changes.
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I'd like to discuss two things you mentioned:
I believe this is incorrect: "The dimension you want must be on the same layer as your model". We suggest this as a normal workflow (create a dimensions layer if you want to hide all of them on a page, then you can togge the visibility of the layer). What you can't do is put your model on a shared layer and have the dimensions stick to the model as you change the camera or adjust the model in LayOut. Is that what you were thinking?
This is true there's not a context menu, but there's easy ways to do "...and on windows, there is no context menu to easily adjust your dimensions as the video shows, so you have to enable the "dimensions setting" on the panel." If you have dimension styles you want to toggle between, you should create a LayOut document with your different styles, File->Save as Scrapbook, then leave that scrapbook open in LayOut. You can then select the dimensions you want to change style, type "s" (it's in shortcuts as "Other/Pick Style"), sample the dimension style you have in your scrapbook, and "Voila" (or "Viola", for you in the strings section), your dimensions have the new style.
Agree?
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The WindowServer is dead.... long live the WindowServer!
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