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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
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      Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?

      A: Fish.

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      • olisheaO Offline
        olishea
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        PMSL!

        what lightbulb it's just a molten blob of glass?!

        On a serious note (if there is such a thing)....is there a multi-face offset for curved surfaces?

        So like Tools On Surface offset that you can apply to several faces at once?

        oli

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          @olishea said:

          On a serious note (if there is such a thing)....is there a multi-face offset for curved surfaces?

          So like Tools On Surface offset that you can apply to several faces at once?

          How would it differ from TOS?
          You mean something that preserves quads?

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
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            I think you can only offset one face at a time with TOS? And multi face offset is coplanar faces only.

            I want to offset the lines from SubD....then you can JPP rails to form a complex shell that follows the SUbD topology.

            oli

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              olishea
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              OK let's use Rich's model as example. Picture says a thousands words n all that....

              This would allow you to create "cages" for 3D printing etc. Hollowed out skeletons. πŸ˜„

              I want to offset every single quad like this with one click:

              And then JPP or other....


              22222.png

              oli

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                Ah, yes - I see now. We like pictures. And I like your idea.
                Btw - the QFT issue tracker is public and a good way to file feature requests: https://bitbucket.org/thomthom/quadface-tools/issues?status=new%26amp;status=open

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • olisheaO Offline
                  olishea
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                  Great!

                  Also is an edge direction procedural out of the question? It can make the edge flow turn through 45 degrees. Then you could achieve a really funky cage!

                  See this 3DSMax video at 4:40 to see what I mean.

                  Thanks I'll be frequenting the QFT issue tracker πŸ˜„

                  oli

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    Thanks. Once SUbD migrates to OpenSubdiv I'll turn my focus to Vertex Tools and QFT for improving the modelling tools. References like that are great to have (please include them in feature requests in the issue tracker.)

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • olisheaO Offline
                      olishea
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                      No problem....only just got round to really testing this. Thanks again for all you do.

                      oli

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                      • garydornG Offline
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                        @garydorn said:

                        Howdy
                        Please excuse my questions if its not suitable here.

                        I've modelled up an AC aceca body - using SU 6 - native tools only , following CaljuCotcas how to model in a car in 3D using blueprints https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgrix3m1l9k

                        blueprint is from a 3Warehouse model called Aceca ( no model just blueprints.)

                        Is SubD something that could be used to smooth out and simplify the surface better than what I've modelled so far. - some of my surfaces are still too dimply.

                        Thanks - any advice appreciated.

                        Probably NOT the best example, but I have managed to SubD the Aceca. It still needs a bit of work to get the bonnet the right shape. Still its better than previous posting.

                        I divided the body in sections and adjusted each section separate. i.e. bonnet, front valance , front fender, rear fender boot, roof.
                        somethings I've noticed

                        1. Quad lines/loops need to be equal number when joining adjacent Groups to look even.

                        2. loops look best when they align in a reasonably straight line and evenly spaced.

                        3. remember to UnSubD when want to adjust something!!! i.e. work on base geometry

                        4. turn off hidden line prior to SubD otherwise it may go into circular mode.

                        5. save during progress often - 3 times I got bugspats, when I didn't save in SubD view, then when I go back to base geometry - BAM - got me!

                        6. I ended up using TomThoms solid inspector2 tool ( as per his suggestion) quite a bit to find out where I was having poor geometry that prevented SubD from working.

                        I'm not very good at setting up the base model so that Quads face tools can used - most of this is simply line tool and moving vector points.

                        This is a pretty groovy plugin.

                        This is on SketchUP Make 2016 on 2009 iMac with 12 GB RAM Mac Os 10.11.3
                        chow

                        PS my process was;

                        1. remove all surfaces so just wire frame was left - adjust wire frame to suit.
                        2. select wireframe and run Quad Face tools > convert> wireframe to Quads.
                        3. select QF mesh - run Tools>solid Inspector 2 - check surfaces - adjust as necessary - it has good guide notes.
                        4. select mesh - run subD
                        5. if SubD has error message ( more then 2 faces to an edge)- redo steps 2, 3 + 4 until it works.

                        AC Aceca body through SubD process.


                        rear view of Aceca subD -1

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                          @garydorn said:

                          1. save during progress often - 3 times I got bugspats, when I didn't save in SubD view, then when I go back to base geometry - BAM - got me!

                          Oh - that's disconcerting! Are you able to reproduce? Btw, can you make sure you submit the BugSplats? Please include some info in the BugSplat message so I can look it up. Then let me know after you submitted them - and let me know what version of SU you use and what OS.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Box
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                            I'm somewhat dumbfounded Thomthom, one of my gifs that you posted on the subd farsebook page has just hit 900 shares. It was a 30 second, pre coffee hangover bleary eyed rough sketch.
                            There is no understanding social media.
                            But I hope it has boosted your sales.

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                              @box said:

                              I'm somewhat dumbfounded Thomthom, one of my gifs that you posted on the subd farsebook page has just hit 900 shares. It was a 30 second, pre coffee hangover bleary eyed rough sketch.
                              There is no understanding social media.
                              But I hope it has boosted your sales.

                              I know!I just saw the numbers - it's blown away anything else posted! Clearly people like GIF mini-tuts.
                              Thank you very much for sharing all these examples - it gives me great insight to how people use the extension and other users loves it as well.

                              I'll be gone for a week - once I get back I'll finish up with OpenSubdiv and make sure to get some extra sections on the website with more GIFs/how-to etc.


                              Screen Shot 2016-03-02 at 16.40.01.png

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                Box
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                                Those are amazing figures. As you noticed I had to create a Box page so I could respond.
                                Perhaps I should post a few gifs there.

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                                  thomthom
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                                  Please do! Makes it even easier for me to re-share and give credit.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    Box
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                                    Ok, but I can't say I am a fan of farsebook or their proprietary gif setup.

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                                    • HieruH Offline
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                                      I much prefer doing and reading mini gif tutorials.

                                      What workflow is everyone else using for their creation? At the moment I create them from layers in PS. Is there a faster method I'm missing?

                                      www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                        @box said:

                                        Ok, but I can't say I am a fan of farsebook or their proprietary gif setup.

                                        All up to you. If you don't want to deal with Facebook then that's fine. I just thought you wanted to set up a page for your own services.

                                        Yea, the GIF system is awkward - I have to upload to Giphy first then link that in the post.

                                        @hieru said:

                                        What workflow is everyone else using for their creation? At the moment I create them from layers in PS. Is there a faster method I'm missing?

                                        I'm using ScreenPresso to record and export GIFs.

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • HieruH Offline
                                          Hieru
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                                          That's great guys. I'll check those out next time I put together a mini tutorial.

                                          www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                          • BoxB Offline
                                            Box
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                                            .gif screen capture software records whatever you do.
                                            Two well known ones, Licecap and Gifcam.
                                            I actually prefer gifcam but it won't work with mac.

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