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    • R Offline
      rv1974
      last edited by

      may be it'd help in bug hunting.
      Attachment: inner offset is not correct, no outer offset at all
      (values: +-20)


      tig2.skp

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      • Jean-FrancoJ Offline
        Jean-Franco
        last edited by

        looking at your skp and welding part of the segments you'll see different results.
        TIG-Smart_offset_example.jpg

        Jean-Franco

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        • R Offline
          rv1974
          last edited by

          @jean-franco said:

          looking at your skp and welding part of the segments you'll see different results.
          [attachment=0:2t1zi3eq]<!-- ia0 -->TIG-Smart_offset_example.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2t1zi3eq]

          I exploded those arches and no offset get executed ๐Ÿ˜’

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          • Jean-FrancoJ Offline
            Jean-Franco
            last edited by

            @rv1974 said:

            @jean-franco said:

            looking at your skp and welding part of the segments you'll see different results.
            [attachment=0:3fig2342]<!-- ia0 -->TIG-Smart_offset_example.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3fig2342]

            I exploded those arches and no offset get executed ๐Ÿ˜’

            Yes, the same behavior for me.

            Jean-Franco

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              I'm investigating...
              ๐Ÿ˜•

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Here's v2.0 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                Just ready for the New Year ๐Ÿ˜‰

                It has further refinements and glitch trapping.
                The recent reports of malformations were caused by the face having very 'sharp' spikes, which were returning a false negative when testing for their offset vertices for the new outline's points. This is now fixed, but it has meant that the point-on-face 'checking tolerance' has had to be increased to 0.5mm - so it could now fail on a face that has a 'finger' that is narrower than 0.5mm, when measured along adjacent vertices' internal-angle-bisectors - but that is very very unlikely anyway...
                ๐Ÿ˜’

                TIG

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                • R Offline
                  rv1974
                  last edited by

                  the last one is much better!
                  things to refine:
                  no outer offset in attached shape


                  tig4.skp

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                  • M Offline
                    mapi_79
                    last edited by

                    great job, as always TIG. Thank you and Good Year ๐Ÿ‘

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Here's v2.1 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                      This version now has the same vertex checking tolerances applied to curves' vertices as to plain edges... [I accidentally missed that code out in the previous version].
                      Hopefully it now also works with the recent problem offset examples posted: mind you, these are getting somewhat 'extreme' ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                      Feedback please ๐Ÿ˜•

                      TIG

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                      • kenK Offline
                        ken
                        last edited by

                        TIG

                        I have been following the updates, and the plugin still has this output with my model. I am not sure this is correct or is a problem.

                        Thanks for your work.

                        Ken


                        Image 1.png

                        Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          TIG

                          I have been following the updates, and the plugin still has this output with my model. I am not sure this is correct or is a problem.

                          Thanks for your work.

                          Ken

                          Ken, I'm curious. If you were to draw that out with paper and pencil, what would you expect that amount of offset to look like?

                          Etaoin Shrdlu

                          %

                          (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                          G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                          M30

                          %

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @Ken
                            That's not right. ๐Ÿ˜•
                            The offset is not maintained evenly - it's too near the 'spikes'.

                            I can't get the effect... ๐Ÿ˜ž
                            However, I do get the outline failing at some point sooner than it ought, when the inward facing 'spikes' get so large they cut through to the other side of the shape...
                            I looking to see what's up with that...
                            Outward offsets are also problematical on that shape...


                            Capture.PNG

                            TIG

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                            • R Offline
                              rv1974
                              last edited by

                              @tig said:

                              Here's v2.1 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                              This version now has the same vertex checking tolerances applied to curves' vertices as to plain edges... [I accidentally missed that code out in the previous version].
                              Hopefully it now also works with the recent problem offset examples posted: mind you, these are getting somewhat 'extreme' ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                              Feedback please ๐Ÿ˜•

                              It starts to look like quest game ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                              Step by step it's getting better.
                              Inner ofsetting (value:-25) in my last attachment is not 100% correct.
                              P.S. Thank you
                              And Happy New Year!

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
                                last edited by

                                Maybe you just need to change the name of the plugin to TIG_Random _Shape_Generator.rb. ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„
                                offset.png

                                I also got something similar to your second one, TIG, when I used a larger offset distance.

                                Etaoin Shrdlu

                                %

                                (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                                G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                                M30

                                %

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  I've got my algorithms in a twist [very painful!]
                                  Trying to unravel the mess...
                                  I'll update asap...

                                  TIG

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                                  • kenK Offline
                                    ken
                                    last edited by

                                    @dave r said:

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    TIG

                                    I have been following the updates, and the plugin still has this output with my model. I am not sure this is correct or is a problem.

                                    Thanks for your work.

                                    Ken

                                    Ken, I'm curious. If you were to draw that out with paper and pencil, what would you expect that amount of offset to look like?

                                    Dave

                                    Well I don't know. That is why I questioned, just what is an offset in an earlier post. Like I said, I only use offset to define a distance to place another object. I know that an offset will eventually distort the shape, so I don't use it to make a larger version of the shape.

                                    I just feel that the attached offset is not what I expected. And it may come to past, that after doing an offset, no matter which tool is used, an individual will need to clean up the edges.

                                    A side note, it would be nice if an offset could be made with guidelines, that way I would get my distance, and be able to delete the offset lines later.

                                    Ken

                                    Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @tig said:

                                      @Ken
                                      That's not right. ๐Ÿ˜•
                                      The offset is not maintained evenly - it's too near the 'spikes'.
                                      .

                                      actually, that's pretty close to being right (aside from the whole arc offset business i got into earlier..)

                                      if that arc is a half circle then i offset the same distance as the two top squares are wide then the solution would be this: (the white is inset from the blue shape)

                                      setooof.jpg

                                      [EDIT] -- i updated the image to include dimensions

                                      dotdotdot

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                                      • simon le bonS Offline
                                        simon le bon
                                        last edited by

                                        mardi 01 Janvier 2013

                                        The following was I think a difficult exercise (;-)) but Smart_offset v2.1 20121231 has made the deal about 87% well and quick.

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_01_zps973e8de7.jpg

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_02_zpse0d2d1f2.jpg

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_03_zpsef62cb93.jpg

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG-SmartOffset_HNY2013_04_zps3d943985.jpg

                                        +++simon

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Happy New Year, Simon... ๐Ÿ˜
                                          I am working on an up date that should up the percentage of successful outcomes too ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          TIG

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                                          • shuraS Offline
                                            shura
                                            last edited by

                                            Happy new year TIG!

                                            gosh, this plugin is something I've been wishing for at least a trillion of times. You are my hero Sir!

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