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    • TIGT 離線
      TIG Moderator
      最後由 編輯

      Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
      It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus


      3honeycomber.PNG

      TIG

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      • S 離線
        SUFractal
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        @tig said:

        Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
        It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus

        TIG:

        Just downloaded the new version (w/ 3-sided option). Same issues as before. Tool appears to begin working, TIG::Honeycomber: Perforating appears in status bar ......... appears, then spinning wheel of death appears and refuses to go away.

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        • TIGT 離線
          TIG Moderator
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          Be patient !
          How many perforations are you making ?
          If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
          Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
          If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
          Works fine for me and many others...
          You do have SUp v8M2 ?
          Must be something you are doing ??

          TIG

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          • S 離線
            SUFractal
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            @tig said:

            Be patient !
            How many perforations are you making ?
            If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
            Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
            If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
            Works fine for me and many others...
            You do have SUp v8M2 ?
            Must be something you are doing ??

            TIG:

            No error message in ruby console prior to tool. Running current version (you reminded me to upgrade remember?) of SU. Trying default setting that pops up. 30+ minutes later and the spinning wheel of death remains. Am I doing anything wrong?

            BTW ... the previous version (w/o the 3-sided option) seems to work fine.


            TIG.jpg

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            • TIGT 離線
              TIG Moderator
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              Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
              This one took ~2 minutes.Capture4.PNG
              I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes 😲 .
              There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
              So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

              I think you don't need so many holes ???

              If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
              It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...

              In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !

              TIG

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              • S 離線
                SUFractal
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                @tig said:

                Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
                This one took ~2 minutes.[attachment=0:97y792mn]<!-- ia0 -->Capture4.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:97y792mn]
                I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes 😲 .
                There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
                So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

                I think you don't need so many holes ???

                If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
                It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...

                In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !

                4" cube with simple perforation offers no change in operation.
                I'll continue to work in the units I need, thanks.

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                • guanjinG 離線
                  guanjin
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                  Complex point of the porous,the generation process is very slow.
                  fengxiang.gif

                  I come from China, is to learn

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                  • TIGT 離線
                    TIG Moderator
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                    Guanjin

                    The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
                    It's inevitable. 😕
                    Set it running and make some tea...

                    TIG

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                    • guanjinG 離線
                      guanjin
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                      @tig said:

                      Guanjin

                      The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
                      It's inevitable. 😕
                      Set it running an make some tea...

                      Thank you of TIG: you have worked hard, so many good tools for free use, you are great! 👍 👍

                      I come from China, is to learn

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                      • EscapeArtistE 離線
                        EscapeArtist
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                        Awesome plugin. I have enjoyed using it so far, just experimenting.

                        I have noticed it will hang if I breathe wrong when applying a large number of perforations. I can't tab to another program, it will simply lock SU up.

                        An idea - would it be possible to add a "random" or mathematical feature to the spacing and size? I.e., between 1" to 1'? Add a rotation feature, i.e. each new unit rotates 10 degrees "X", 5 "Y" and 12 "Z" (all 3 axis?), and finally to use one's own model as the subtracted shape?

                        I realize this may be completely prohibitive by SU's single core use and the added complexity of any intersections, but just a thought. One could come up with almost fractal-like iterations in a medium with these options.

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                        • TIGT 離線
                          TIG Moderator
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                          It's almost certainly not 'hanging'.
                          It just takes ages to process and left to its own devices it will complete [eventually!]
                          Use the Task Manager to see that Sketchup is still processing away, although the screen has a 'white-out' - it's one of the quirks of SUp, when it's doing intensive calculations it looses the screen...
                          It does take a while to make all of the changes to the geometry - have patience...

                          I do have some recoding ideas to speed it up [a little], but testing takes time too...

                          TIG

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                          • I 離線
                            ideas_arte
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                            @tig said:

                            It is for v8-Pro only.

                            😳 "Free" users will have any chance of using this excellent tool?

                            Best regards!

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                            • TIGT 離線
                              TIG Moderator
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                              v8-Pro only because it uses several API techniques only accessible to Pro - sorry...

                              TIG

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                              • TIGT 離線
                                TIG Moderator
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                                Here's v1.3 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
                                The speed has been improved by ~4x.
                                The 'shell' version still takes ~4x longer than an un-shelled version because of the many extra steps required - but while ~15 minutes is worse that ~4minutes, it is better than ~60 minutes !!
                                Some minor glitches have also been fixed with 3-sided setting out centrally.

                                TIG

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                                • I 離線
                                  ideas_arte
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                                  @tig said:

                                  sorry...

                                  I understand. 😒 Thank you for all the good work. My best wishes for you

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                                  • guanjinG 離線
                                    guanjin
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                                    @tig said:

                                    Here's v1.3 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
                                    The speed has been improved by ~4x.
                                    The 'shell' version still takes ~4x longer than an un-shelled version because of the many extra steps required - but while ~15 minutes is worse that ~4minutes, it is better than ~60 minutes !!
                                    Some minor glitches have also been fixed with 3-sided setting out centrally.

                                    Thank of TIG: Speed ​​is the key, to test the new file。

                                    I come from China, is to learn

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                                    • D 離線
                                      dtolios
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                                      Amazing work, great potential for this tool...
                                      Unfortunately is too slow for some of the complex shapes I had in mind, but I have trust that it will get better overtime (and yeah, my mobile i7 is not the fastest processor anyways...)

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                                      • charly2008C 離線
                                        charly2008
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                                        TIG, you have once again created a surprising and promising tool. Thank you.


                                        2012-04-28_145245.jpg

                                        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                        • S 離線
                                          SUFractal
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                                          @charly2008 said:

                                          TIG, you have once again created a surprising and promising tool. Thank you.

                                          I'm curious as to how long it took you to create this?

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
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                                            @sufractal said:

                                            @charly2008 said:

                                            TIG, you have once again created a surprising and promising tool. Thank you.

                                            I'm curious as to how long it took you to create this?
                                            I reproduced it [badly!]


                                            Capture.PNG

                                            TIG

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