[Plugin] Honeycomber

Oxer · 5 Apr 2012, 13:35

Sorry TIG, in Spain we are in holidays (Saint Week) i'm going to travel when i back i'll continue with the testing.
Bye, best wishes.

TIG · 5 Apr 2012, 14:29

No problems, I am on hols from tonight anyway...

oisin.higgins · 5 Apr 2012, 16:55

Hi TIG,
Is it possible to use this script to create space frames with regular geometry that can be tessellated e.g. a tetrhedron, octahedron, or dodecahedron?

TIG · 6 Apr 2012, 12:27

@oisin.higgins said:

Hi TIG,
Is it possible to use this script to create space frames with regular geometry that can be tessellated e.g. a tetrahedron, octahedron, or dodecahedron?
Yes, theoretically...
This is v1.0
The math would just get extra extra complicated...
I do have '3 sided' [equilateral triangles] on the to-do-list already - which would give 'reinforced hexagonal honeycombs...

TIG · 6 Apr 2012, 20:46

Oxer/SUFractal

Thomthom has just pointed out that your versions of v8 are out of date and were replaced by updated that fixed certain issues - including some with model.raytest...

Please download the latest v8pro version for your OS, install then then retest...
Report back - it would be nice to know that the fix was as simple as you getting the latest version of the software... before you report an issue

SUFractal · 7 Apr 2012, 03:35

@tig said:

Oxer/SUFractal

Thomthom has just pointed out that your versions of v8 are out of date and were replaced by updated that fixed certain issues - including some with model.raytest...

Please download the latest v8pro version for your OS, install then then retest...
Report back - it would be nice to know that the fix was as simple as you getting the latest version of the software... before you report an issue

TIG/TT:

I've updated SU (Version 8.0.11751) as you suggested.

Honeycomber, Instant Roof, SectionCutFace, and SketchUpBIM all seem to be getting along nicely so far.

(Why didn't I think of something so simple as that? )

Thanks for all your help ... I'll post in the SketchUpBIM thread/post.

TIG · 7 Apr 2012, 08:59

Well at least we know it's fixed.
It was remiss of me that I didn't spot your v8 was out of date.
Luckily TT noticed it !

TIG · 11 Apr 2012, 12:51

Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
A glitch with the undo code is now fixed; it will now always undo in one step.

thomthom · 11 Apr 2012, 12:58

@sufractal said:

(Why didn't I think of something so simple as that? )

As a general rule of thumb: When you have a software issue, first ensure you have the latest version. Your issue might very well be fixed already. And for 3D related applications, also check your graphic card driver.

TIG · 12 Apr 2012, 15:59

Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus

SUFractal · 13 Apr 2012, 05:04

@tig said:

Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus

TIG:

Just downloaded the new version (w/ 3-sided option). Same issues as before. Tool appears to begin working, TIG::Honeycomber: Perforating appears in status bar ......... appears, then spinning wheel of death appears and refuses to go away.

TIG · 13 Apr 2012, 08:53

Be patient !
How many perforations are you making ?
If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
Works fine for me and many others...
You do have SUp v8M2 ?
Must be something you are doing ??

SUFractal · 13 Apr 2012, 15:36

@tig said:

Be patient !
How many perforations are you making ?
If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
Works fine for me and many others...
You do have SUp v8M2 ?
Must be something you are doing ??

TIG:

No error message in ruby console prior to tool. Running current version (you reminded me to upgrade remember?) of SU. Trying default setting that pops up. 30+ minutes later and the spinning wheel of death remains. Am I doing anything wrong?

BTW ... the previous version (w/o the 3-sided option) seems to work fine.

TIG · 13 Apr 2012, 18:31

Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
This one took ~2 minutes.
I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes .
There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

I think you don't need so many holes ???

If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...

In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !

SUFractal · 13 Apr 2012, 19:22

@tig said:

Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
This one took ~2 minutes.[attachment=0:97y792mn]Capture4.PNG[/attachment:97y792mn]
I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes .
There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

I think you don't need so many holes ???

If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...

In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !

4" cube with simple perforation offers no change in operation.
I'll continue to work in the units I need, thanks.

guanjin · 14 Apr 2012, 13:48

Complex point of the porous,the generation process is very slow.

TIG · 14 Apr 2012, 14:17

Guanjin

The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
It's inevitable.
Set it running and make some tea...

guanjin · 14 Apr 2012, 14:30

@tig said:

Guanjin

The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
It's inevitable.
Set it running an make some tea...

Thank you of TIG: you have worked hard, so many good tools for free use, you are great!

EscapeArtist · 14 Apr 2012, 20:09

Awesome plugin. I have enjoyed using it so far, just experimenting.

I have noticed it will hang if I breathe wrong when applying a large number of perforations. I can't tab to another program, it will simply lock SU up.

An idea - would it be possible to add a "random" or mathematical feature to the spacing and size? I.e., between 1" to 1'? Add a rotation feature, i.e. each new unit rotates 10 degrees "X", 5 "Y" and 12 "Z" (all 3 axis?), and finally to use one's own model as the subtracted shape?

I realize this may be completely prohibitive by SU's single core use and the added complexity of any intersections, but just a thought. One could come up with almost fractal-like iterations in a medium with these options.

TIG · 14 Apr 2012, 20:54

It's almost certainly not 'hanging'.
It just takes ages to process and left to its own devices it will complete [eventually!]
Use the Task Manager to see that Sketchup is still processing away, although the screen has a 'white-out' - it's one of the quirks of SUp, when it's doing intensive calculations it looses the screen...
It does take a while to make all of the changes to the geometry - have patience...

I do have some recoding ideas to speed it up [a little], but testing takes time too...