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      oisin.higgins
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      Hi TIG,
      Is it possible to use this script to create space frames with regular geometry that can be tessellated e.g. a tetrhedron, octahedron, or dodecahedron?

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        TIG Moderator
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        @oisin.higgins said:

        Hi TIG,
        Is it possible to use this script to create space frames with regular geometry that can be tessellated e.g. a tetrahedron, octahedron, or dodecahedron?
        Yes, theoretically... πŸ˜•
        This is v1.0 πŸ˜‰
        The math would just get extra extra complicated...
        I do have '3 sided' [equilateral triangles] on the to-do-list already - which would give 'reinforced hexagonal honeycombs...

        TIG

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          TIG Moderator
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          Oxer/SUFractal

          Thomthom has just pointed out that your versions of v8 are out of date and were replaced by updated that fixed certain issues - including some with model.raytest...

          Please download the latest v8pro version for your OS, install then then retest...
          Report back - it would be nice to know that the fix was as simple as you getting the latest version of the software... before you report an issue 😞

          TIG

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            SUFractal
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            @tig said:

            Oxer/SUFractal

            Thomthom has just pointed out that your versions of v8 are out of date and were replaced by updated that fixed certain issues - including some with model.raytest...

            Please download the latest v8pro version for your OS, install then then retest...
            Report back - it would be nice to know that the fix was as simple as you getting the latest version of the software... before you report an issue 😞

            TIG/TT:

            I've updated SU (Version 8.0.11751) as you suggested.

            Honeycomber, Instant Roof, SectionCutFace, and SketchUpBIM all seem to be getting along nicely so far.

            (Why didn't I think of something so simple as that? 😳 )

            Thanks for all your help ... I'll post in the SketchUpBIM thread/post.

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Well at least we know it's fixed.
              It was remiss of me that I didn't spot your v8 was out of date.
              Luckily TT noticed it !

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
                A glitch with the undo code is now fixed; it will now always undo in one step.

                TIG

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                  thomthom
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                  @sufractal said:

                  (Why didn't I think of something so simple as that? 😳 )

                  As a general rule of thumb: When you have a software issue, first ensure you have the latest version. Your issue might very well be fixed already. And for 3D related applications, also check your graphic card driver.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
                    It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus


                    3honeycomber.PNG

                    TIG

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                      SUFractal
                      last edited by

                      @tig said:

                      Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=395061#p395061
                      It now has a 3 sided option making equilateral perforations, which assemble into hexagons etc thus

                      TIG:

                      Just downloaded the new version (w/ 3-sided option). Same issues as before. Tool appears to begin working, TIG::Honeycomber: Perforating appears in status bar ......... appears, then spinning wheel of death appears and refuses to go away.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Be patient !
                        How many perforations are you making ?
                        If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
                        Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
                        If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
                        Works fine for me and many others...
                        You do have SUp v8M2 ?
                        Must be something you are doing ??

                        TIG

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                          SUFractal
                          last edited by

                          @tig said:

                          Be patient !
                          How many perforations are you making ?
                          If there are many hundreds it will take a looong time !
                          Try it with a small number and see if it works then.
                          If, before running the tool, you open the Ruby Console do you get any error messages in it ?
                          Works fine for me and many others...
                          You do have SUp v8M2 ?
                          Must be something you are doing ??

                          TIG:

                          No error message in ruby console prior to tool. Running current version (you reminded me to upgrade remember?) of SU. Trying default setting that pops up. 30+ minutes later and the spinning wheel of death remains. Am I doing anything wrong?

                          BTW ... the previous version (w/o the 3-sided option) seems to work fine.


                          TIG.jpg

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
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                            Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
                            This one took ~2 minutes.Capture4.PNG
                            I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes 😲 .
                            There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
                            So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

                            I think you don't need so many holes ???

                            If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
                            It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...

                            In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !

                            TIG

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                              SUFractal
                              last edited by

                              @tig said:

                              Try with a 4" cube it'd take a fraction of the time! [with ~125+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc]
                              This one took ~2 minutes.[attachment=0:97y792mn]<!-- ia0 -->Capture4.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:97y792mn]
                              I replicated your 8" cube on my PC and it eventually made it in ~150 minutes 😲 .
                              There are ~729+ perforations, each with 8 faces etc... It all adds up...
                              So it is not just 10x slower, because the more entities you add to a context the slower Sketchup runs disproportionately... each extra step adds exponentially, time-wise.

                              I think you don't need so many holes ???

                              If you open Task Manager when running a looooong process you will see that Sketchup is still working.
                              It's just taking a-g-e-s to process all of the needed geometry...

                              In passing... please adjust your default Template's, Model Info > Units to show some decimal inches !

                              4" cube with simple perforation offers no change in operation.
                              I'll continue to work in the units I need, thanks.

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                                guanjin
                                last edited by

                                Complex point of the porous,the generation process is very slow.
                                fengxiang.gif

                                I come from China, is to learn

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  Guanjin

                                  The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
                                  It's inevitable. πŸ˜•
                                  Set it running and make some tea...

                                  TIG

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                                    guanjin
                                    last edited by

                                    @tig said:

                                    Guanjin

                                    The more geometry there is the slower the processing.
                                    It's inevitable. πŸ˜•
                                    Set it running an make some tea...

                                    Thank you of TIG: you have worked hard, so many good tools for free use, you are great! πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                                    I come from China, is to learn

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                                    • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                      EscapeArtist
                                      last edited by

                                      Awesome plugin. I have enjoyed using it so far, just experimenting.

                                      I have noticed it will hang if I breathe wrong when applying a large number of perforations. I can't tab to another program, it will simply lock SU up.

                                      An idea - would it be possible to add a "random" or mathematical feature to the spacing and size? I.e., between 1" to 1'? Add a rotation feature, i.e. each new unit rotates 10 degrees "X", 5 "Y" and 12 "Z" (all 3 axis?), and finally to use one's own model as the subtracted shape?

                                      I realize this may be completely prohibitive by SU's single core use and the added complexity of any intersections, but just a thought. One could come up with almost fractal-like iterations in a medium with these options.

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        It's almost certainly not 'hanging'.
                                        It just takes ages to process and left to its own devices it will complete [eventually!]
                                        Use the Task Manager to see that Sketchup is still processing away, although the screen has a 'white-out' - it's one of the quirks of SUp, when it's doing intensive calculations it looses the screen...
                                        It does take a while to make all of the changes to the geometry - have patience...

                                        I do have some recoding ideas to speed it up [a little], but testing takes time too...

                                        TIG

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                                          ideas_arte
                                          last edited by

                                          @tig said:

                                          It is for v8-Pro only.

                                          😳 "Free" users will have any chance of using this excellent tool?

                                          Best regards!

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            v8-Pro only because it uses several API techniques only accessible to Pro - sorry...

                                            TIG

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