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    • broomstickB Offline
      broomstick
      last edited by

      couldn't you just make a fairly similar form from a plane and then twist it?

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      • D Offline
        dajohn
        last edited by

        The ornament needs to have a concave surface on the inside. The top lip suggests that it is slightly curved over. I'm not sure how to twist two joined curved lines without twisting the whole plane. Is it possible to isolate say the top half and the bottom half so I would get a smooth twist? I am also trying to find a way to create the smooth surface with skinning, but I'm getting some unexpected results. How would i get the tapered thickness I need. Im trying the joint push and pull, but it gives me squared edges.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          This isn't exactly what you want... but shows how to use several compound curves as profiles/rails in ExtrudeEdgesByRails to achieve comparable results...Capture.PNG

          TIG

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            dajohn
            last edited by

            Hi Tig. I tried your loft by rails, but I got a convoluted compound face that doubled back on itself. I also used edges by rails, but got much the same as you did. I then used TGI3d create mesh and got what you see in the file. It seems to work fairly well, but I don't know how to round over the edges and the inside curved surface doesn't have quite the volume I need. I couldn't get soap skin and bubble to work on it either. I also used the joint push pull plugin, but as you can see, it only gave me one extruded face.


            leaf ornament.skp

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Here's a version of your form split to make a profile and two rails and EEbyRails, Copy and EEbyVector to for edge-faces...Capture.PNG

              TIG

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                Would something like these be close to the right idea?


                http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/5417915921_68b4480c2f.jpg

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  hhhmmmmmmmmmmmm πŸ˜’ not quite. but my head hurts thinking about it
                  Ornament_1.png

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Aaaaaahhhhhh...... πŸŽ‰

                    Ornament_2.png

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                    • D Offline
                      dajohn
                      last edited by

                      Thanks everybody for your suggestions. Tig, I tried your method and it works great. Is it possible to make rounded edges? Also, I tried to run the profile edge off the second rail, but it broke in two. I separated it and made it a curve and it worked great. Except for the round edges the results look perfect. Thanks again!


                      leaf ornament.skp

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        Did you look at this?

                        Although it isn't exactly the same, I think you could make the rounded edge in the same way I made the narrower parts of the finial.

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          I'm seeing a completely different shape than the rest?

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                          • boofredlayB Offline
                            boofredlay
                            last edited by

                            That is funny because the shape I see in my mind is different than any of the examples. πŸ˜†

                            http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              To me it looks like leaf with two different larger bends and the edge curled over. I was only suggesting the finals I drew as an illustration of the way to get the main part and the curl on the edge. Maybe it's too hard for others to see the connection between what I did and the leaf. Should I remove it?

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                              • D Offline
                                dajohn
                                last edited by

                                Thanks Dave. I hadn't seen that video. I have other ornaments to make and I think I can use those same principles.

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                                • soloS Offline
                                  solo
                                  last edited by

                                  Hmmm, with only one refernce image it's hard to understand the actual shape.

                                  This is what I think...

                                  ornament.jpg

                                  ornamen12t.jpg

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

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                                    fellas, i think it's more along these lines... πŸ˜‰

                                    ornament.skp

                                    click pic -> bigger

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @Pete

                                      Nice mapping can I see another view?

                                      @Jeff
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                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @Jeff
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                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          @Jeff
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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            πŸ˜•

                                            Sorry Rich, I never saved it.

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