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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      @khai said:

      to give us back the Skp previews....

      SketchUp don't need to go 64bit for that - they only have to update the thumbnailer. (Which I really hope they do.)

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • K Offline
        Khai
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        @thomthom said:

        @khai said:

        to give us back the Skp previews....

        SketchUp don't need to go 64bit for that - they only have to update the thumbnailer. (Which I really hope they do.)

        SHHHHHHH it's actually a valid reason! 😉

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        • D Offline
          dacad
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          hahaha great post khai

          But when we stop to think about it, a question pops "why would I need sk 64 bits?" Really why? it's not like SK has the tools to push it much further without help from others, and if it works with others it's because the OTHERS try to work with it, not the other way. And it's not flawless (vrayfur on a imported skp file anyone?)

          If you ask me 6-7 years ago what I though sk would be capable of doing I would have answer something like Lumion does now (it's the perfect philosophy of WYSIWYG that sk had), and more clever and unique modelling/texturing/animation tools (64 bits and multicore wouldn't cross my mind back then). And now remind me what's the big differences in this departments with sk without 3rd party stuff, in 6 years? A little shocking when you think about it, isn't it...

          So be it 32 or 64, I think sk has reach the "mature" point (unfortunately), it's has good as it ever is going to be (just some "optimizations" here and there with newer versions). Just accept it and use it as long as it works for you (it will give us all much less headaches and "beating-dead-horses"-debates).I have.

          So, honestly I think the questions in sk development goes much deeper than plain and simple 64 bits...

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          • jason_marantoJ Offline
            jason_maranto
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            As long as there are Sketchup Ruby Plugin developers Sketchup will be fine as a modelling tool... The top priority as I see it is for the Sketchup dev team to really take the time to polish up the functionality and documentation of the APIs (Ruby & C++) and add an API for Layout, then some sort of high quality plugin management scheme will probably make most users very happy.

            I do wonder if some very real performance gains could be made by overhauling the internal render engine, because that seems to be the thing that slows down performance the most.

            Best,
            Jason.

            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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            • jbacusJ Offline
              jbacus
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              @jason_maranto said:

              I do wonder if some very real performance gains could be made by overhauling the internal render engine, because that seems to be the thing that slows down performance the most.

              We implemented an entirely new rendering engine in SU7.1, which did increase performance significantly. Historically, every new SketchUp release is faster than its predecessor.

              john
              .

              "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

              John Bacus
              jbacus@sketchup.com

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                To be honest I've found SU8 alot more responsive than 7.1 was on my ATI card. And i've also noticed that SU8 is alot quicker when selecting hi-poly(sub-divided) meshes.

                So for me 64bit isn't something I crave, as out of the box SU is still my weapon of choice 👍

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                • brodieB Offline
                  brodie
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                  @khai said:

                  look at this way.

                  Sketchup eventually will go 64bit. it has to. try running an 8bit or 16bit app in windows and you'll see what I mean... so Patience.... it'll get there in the end. 😆

                  I think that's actually a pretty interesting point. Looking at it another way, why NOT start pushing for an 16-bit or even 8-bit version of SU? If 64-bit is slower, because of the extra info being pushed through, then it stands to reason that an 8-bit SU would be faster, would it not?

                  -Brodie

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                  • PixeroP Offline
                    Pixero
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                    @jbacus said:

                    Historically, every new SketchUp release is faster than its predecessor.

                    But is it more stable for "polygon heavy" models?
                    I'd rather have a slow but stable SU than a fast and unstable.
                    Do you mean that a 64bit SU wouldn't be more stable for heavy models?

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      @pixero said:

                      But is it more stable for "polygon heavy" models?
                      I'd rather have a slow but stable SU than a fast and unstable.
                      Do you mean that a 64bit SU wouldn't be more stable for heavy models?

                      The only way it'd be more stable would be if SU ran out of memory while such a model where loaded. Personally I have not seen that, even with 1-2 million faces models. (Faces, not triangles, so the triangle count ( which most apps report in ) will be much higher.)

                      The only times I's crashed SU due to running out of memory has been when I rendered with a render-engine.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • jbacusJ Offline
                        jbacus
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                        @pixero said:

                        But is it more stable for "polygon heavy" models?
                        I'd rather have a slow but stable SU than a fast and unstable.
                        Do you mean that a 64bit SU wouldn't be more stable for heavy models?

                        New releases of SketchUp tend towards increased stability. I say that they "tend towards" increased stability because new major versions may be less stable than the preceding maintenance release for the last major version– actually, that's the whole reason for doing maintenance releases. We track "stability" metrics by watching submitted crash reports– so be sure that you're sending those reports in if you're having problems.

                        Unfortunately, as SketchUp's performance and stability increase you are at liberty to make larger and more complex models. Which put new and more taxing requirements on the system as a whole.

                        But, no– 64bit computing won't inherently improve the stability of SketchUp for large models.

                        john
                        .

                        "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

                        John Bacus
                        jbacus@sketchup.com

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                        • anteolicA Offline
                          anteolic
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                          Evrybody says that new sketchup not be 64bit but i got this answer from Trimble

                          Hi,

                          Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.

                          If you need anything else, please let me know.

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                            • anteolicA Offline
                              anteolic
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                              i dont reply anything, for now thisi is enough information for me. I am very big fun of sketchup i now im very hame to hear that new sketchup will be 64bit.

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @anteolic said:

                                    Evrybody says that new sketchup not be 64bit but i got this answer from Trimble

                                    Hi,

                                    Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.

                                    If you need anything else, please let me know.

                                    @anteolic said:

                                    i dont reply anything, for now thisi is enough information for me. I am very big fun of sketchup i now im very hame to hear that new sketchup will be 64bit.

                                    64bit functionality not sure if that means SketchUp will be 64bit. Considering John Bacus's replies earlier it appeared that 64bit SketchUp wasn't high up there on the list. So I am surprised if the next release will be so. And more surprised they would mention this to anyone. They never reveal information prior to releases.

                                    Until this is verified I hold back my "wow!".

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                      • anteolicA Offline
                                        anteolic
                                        last edited by

                                        this was my question to Trimble maybe it will help you

                                        When is comming new sketchup and will it be 64bit. Cause program is perfect but i can work with large scenes

                                        and they answer me:

                                        Hi,

                                        Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.

                                        If you need anything else, please let me know.

                                        Kind Regards,
                                        NAME SURNAME-i dont wont write name of agent cause i dont know it is good.
                                        Inside Sales & Support | SketchUp Pro
                                        Trimble Navigation Limited

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                                        • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                          jason_maranto
                                          last edited by

                                          If this is correct (and you would hope sales dept. would know the facts) then I will definitely be upgrading to 2013.

                                          Best,
                                          Jason.

                                          I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
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                                            Could this be true?

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