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  • J Offline
    jason_maranto
    last edited by 4 Jan 2011, 16:30

    As long as there are Sketchup Ruby Plugin developers Sketchup will be fine as a modelling tool... The top priority as I see it is for the Sketchup dev team to really take the time to polish up the functionality and documentation of the APIs (Ruby & C++) and add an API for Layout, then some sort of high quality plugin management scheme will probably make most users very happy.

    I do wonder if some very real performance gains could be made by overhauling the internal render engine, because that seems to be the thing that slows down performance the most.

    Best,
    Jason.

    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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      jbacus
      last edited by 4 Jan 2011, 21:25

      @jason_maranto said:

      I do wonder if some very real performance gains could be made by overhauling the internal render engine, because that seems to be the thing that slows down performance the most.

      We implemented an entirely new rendering engine in SU7.1, which did increase performance significantly. Historically, every new SketchUp release is faster than its predecessor.

      john
      .

      "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

      John Bacus
      jbacus@sketchup.com

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        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by 4 Jan 2011, 21:32

        To be honest I've found SU8 alot more responsive than 7.1 was on my ATI card. And i've also noticed that SU8 is alot quicker when selecting hi-poly(sub-divided) meshes.

        So for me 64bit isn't something I crave, as out of the box SU is still my weapon of choice ๐Ÿ‘

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          brodie
          last edited by 5 Jan 2011, 03:31

          @khai said:

          look at this way.

          Sketchup eventually will go 64bit. it has to. try running an 8bit or 16bit app in windows and you'll see what I mean... so Patience.... it'll get there in the end. ๐Ÿ˜†

          I think that's actually a pretty interesting point. Looking at it another way, why NOT start pushing for an 16-bit or even 8-bit version of SU? If 64-bit is slower, because of the extra info being pushed through, then it stands to reason that an 8-bit SU would be faster, would it not?

          -Brodie

          steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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            Pixero
            last edited by 5 Jan 2011, 06:38

            @jbacus said:

            Historically, every new SketchUp release is faster than its predecessor.

            But is it more stable for "polygon heavy" models?
            I'd rather have a slow but stable SU than a fast and unstable.
            Do you mean that a 64bit SU wouldn't be more stable for heavy models?

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              thomthom
              last edited by 5 Jan 2011, 07:28

              @pixero said:

              But is it more stable for "polygon heavy" models?
              I'd rather have a slow but stable SU than a fast and unstable.
              Do you mean that a 64bit SU wouldn't be more stable for heavy models?

              The only way it'd be more stable would be if SU ran out of memory while such a model where loaded. Personally I have not seen that, even with 1-2 million faces models. (Faces, not triangles, so the triangle count ( which most apps report in ) will be much higher.)

              The only times I's crashed SU due to running out of memory has been when I rendered with a render-engine.

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                jbacus
                last edited by 5 Jan 2011, 20:25

                @pixero said:

                But is it more stable for "polygon heavy" models?
                I'd rather have a slow but stable SU than a fast and unstable.
                Do you mean that a 64bit SU wouldn't be more stable for heavy models?

                New releases of SketchUp tend towards increased stability. I say that they "tend towards" increased stability because new major versions may be less stable than the preceding maintenance release for the last major versionโ€“ actually, that's the whole reason for doing maintenance releases. We track "stability" metrics by watching submitted crash reportsโ€“ so be sure that you're sending those reports in if you're having problems.

                Unfortunately, as SketchUp's performance and stability increase you are at liberty to make larger and more complex models. Which put new and more taxing requirements on the system as a whole.

                But, noโ€“ 64bit computing won't inherently improve the stability of SketchUp for large models.

                john
                .

                "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

                John Bacus
                jbacus@sketchup.com

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                  anteolic
                  last edited by 15 Feb 2013, 21:59

                  Evrybody says that new sketchup not be 64bit but i got this answer from Trimble

                  Hi,

                  Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.

                  If you need anything else, please let me know.

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                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by 15 Feb 2013, 22:05

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                      anteolic
                      last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 00:27

                      i dont reply anything, for now thisi is enough information for me. I am very big fun of sketchup i now im very hame to hear that new sketchup will be 64bit.

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                        Pixero
                        last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 07:46

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                          pbacot
                          last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 08:29

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 11:50

                            @anteolic said:

                            Evrybody says that new sketchup not be 64bit but i got this answer from Trimble

                            Hi,

                            Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.

                            If you need anything else, please let me know.

                            @anteolic said:

                            i dont reply anything, for now thisi is enough information for me. I am very big fun of sketchup i now im very hame to hear that new sketchup will be 64bit.

                            64bit functionality not sure if that means SketchUp will be 64bit. Considering John Bacus's replies earlier it appeared that 64bit SketchUp wasn't high up there on the list. So I am surprised if the next release will be so. And more surprised they would mention this to anyone. They never reveal information prior to releases.

                            Until this is verified I hold back my "wow!".

                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 12:16

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                                anteolic
                                last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 13:09

                                this was my question to Trimble maybe it will help you

                                When is comming new sketchup and will it be 64bit. Cause program is perfect but i can work with large scenes

                                and they answer me:

                                Hi,

                                Thanks for the note. We don't have an exact date we can share with you to when the next version of SketchUp Pro will be released. We are working on the next version and plan to have it out sometime this year. The plan is to include 64bit functionality.

                                If you need anything else, please let me know.

                                Kind Regards,
                                NAME SURNAME-i dont wont write name of agent cause i dont know it is good.
                                Inside Sales & Support | SketchUp Pro
                                Trimble Navigation Limited

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                                  jason_maranto
                                  last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 13:22

                                  If this is correct (and you would hope sales dept. would know the facts) then I will definitely be upgrading to 2013.

                                  Best,
                                  Jason.

                                  I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                                    solo
                                    last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 13:38

                                    Could this be true?

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                                    My skeptical look.

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                                      sonder
                                      last edited by 16 Feb 2013, 20:06

                                      I'm hopeful! I need to start using all 64Gb of memory in my new machine!

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                                      • mitcorbM Offline
                                        mitcorb
                                        last edited by 17 Feb 2013, 14:28

                                        You might get solicitations from organizations wanting to borrow number crunching time on on your machine, if the 64Gb is any indicator.

                                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by 17 Feb 2013, 16:13

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          I'm hopeful! I need to start using all 64Gb of memory in my new machine!

                                          Why? When have you run out of memory while using SketchUp?

                                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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