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    • ken28875K Offline
      ken28875
      last edited by

      Wow, this is really cool. 👍

      Could you please show the screenshots of the sketchup geos?

      Thank you, Sir.

      _KN

      Follow Your Dreams.

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      • R Offline
        robert111
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        charly2008
        can you make juste one tutorial for yours nice jobs

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        • charly2008C Offline
          charly2008
          last edited by

          Hi Ken, hi Robert,

          at first a few screen shots from SketchUp.


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          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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          • mitcorbM Offline
            mitcorb
            last edited by

            You have a great imagination, and I assume your knowledge is less limited than many 😄 👍 👍

            I notice in the SKup captures that the geometry is coincident but not intersecting. I did not realize that a render app would tolerate this?

            By the way, which render app is it?

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • D Offline
              dedmin
              last edited by

              👍 👍 👍 👍

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              • charly2008C Offline
                charly2008
                last edited by

                Hi mitcorb,

                I use Kerkythea. With Kerkythea I have the most experience. I consider myself still a beginner as regards to rendering. I would recommend anyone to begin with Kerkythea and to study the program thoroughly. This is a good basis for understanding other rendering programs.

                Charly

                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                • charly2008C Offline
                  charly2008
                  last edited by

                  I usually start trying to construct a basic form. Then you can play with the spline Methods. Then make a group and copy them and connect them several times. Make it a group again and use again rotate copy. It is very easy. The result is mostly interesting geometric objects. Useless but nice to see.

                  I would be very interested in what ideas others user have. Has someone already used it for architectural purposes?

                  Charly


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                  Untitled.skp

                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                  • R Offline
                    robert111
                    last edited by

                    charly thanks for your nice tuto , but i am interresting for this objet
                    if you can make tuto too ,


                    Unbenannt%20%282%29.JPG

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                    • charly2008C Offline
                      charly2008
                      last edited by

                      Robert,

                      it is very easy. I used this basic construction shown in my post before. Connect the faces as you want and use spline method "junction by orthogonal Betier curves" as shown below.

                      Charly


                      Basic.jpg


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                      Junction by orthogonal Bezier curves

                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                        robert111
                        last edited by

                        charly thanks for your tuto but i havent cuved form , i dont know why??
                        look this picture


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                        • R Offline
                          robert111
                          last edited by

                          thanks charly , i dont have use spline in curviloft , thanks

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                          • charly2008C Offline
                            charly2008
                            last edited by

                            Robert, i think you used a different Spline Method. See images below. The second image shows Junction by Orthogonal Bezier curves.

                            Charly


                            Unbenannt.JPG


                            Junction by Orthogonal Bezier curves

                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                            • charly2008C Offline
                              charly2008
                              last edited by

                              Probably there are many like me. Some features I can not understand completely.


                              Unbenannt.JPG

                              He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @charly2008 said:

                                Probably there are many like me. Some features I can not understand completely.

                                Charly,

                                There are many ways to do Loft, and this is why there are many options (and there should probably be more).

                                1. The Spline methods on the left side:
                                • one if simply to link contours by straight lines
                                • the second is a junction by Bezier curves with mean slope. In many cases where contours are aligned this is almost a straight line too. But in other situations, it gives a curved shape.
                                1. The two icons in the middle are for Cubic Bezier and Catmull Splines. In most cases they give a very similar shape, though Cubic Bezier is usually nicer in the rounding. Catmull, in contrast, is more similar to what you get in Subdivide & Smooth methods.

                                2. The two icons on the right side of the Spline method palette: These 2 methods only apply when you have more than 2 contours. The principle is that they link the two extreme contours by B-Spline or F-Spline, using the intermediate ones as a guide for shaping. The generated surface passes through the extreme contours but not thorugh the intermediate ones

                                3. The vertex matching palette is about how to match vertices from one contour to the next one. I am still experimenting and will try to improve in this area. The matching can be based on:

                                • match vertex to vertex when there are the same numbers (first default)
                                • match along the curvilinear distance (second default)
                                • match along Cubic or Bezier profiles. The principle is that the spacing between matching vertices is function of the curvature of the contour. I found theoritical cases where this is the correct solution, but in the real world, this may be another story.
                                1. The geometry palette is used for 2 purposes currently:
                                • generate only the junctions as lines (i.e. no surface)
                                • make the junction as SU curves. This allows deforming the shape in a continuous way by moving the contours.
                                  I plan to add the possibility to construct any part of the mesh (i.e. triangles, quads, junctions only, etc....)

                                The best is to play with the options on a given model and see what it gives.

                                I agree that this is not straightforward, but keep in mind that there is unfortunately not a single solution to all lofting situations.

                                Fredo

                                PS: by the way, extremely nice models you designed!! 😒

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                                • charly2008C Offline
                                  charly2008
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Fredo,

                                  thank you for your detailed explanation. I'll continue to experiment with getting to know all the options. Your explanation is certainly helpful to all.

                                  Charly

                                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm getting some errors:

                                    CurviError.png

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      I'm getting some errors:

                                      [attachment=0:21a7yfyo]<!-- ia0 -->CurviError.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:21a7yfyo]

                                      Tom,

                                      Thanks for signaling this problem.
                                      Would you mind to post the model.

                                      Fredo

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        I'm getting some errors:

                                        [attachment=0:1k817cpu]<!-- ia0 -->CurviError.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1k817cpu]

                                        Tom,

                                        Thanks for signaling this problem.
                                        Would you mind to post the model.

                                        Fredo

                                        It's a wee heavy - but I can post the extracted polylines.

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Here it is:


                                          CurviError.skp

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • charly2008C Offline
                                            charly2008
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Thomas,

                                            i welded each line and below the result in Sketchup 8.

                                            Charly


                                            Unbenannt.JPG

                                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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