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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Seems there's many ways to apply specular maps.
      I figured it'd be of interest to see the reply of one of the ASGVis employees.

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • stefanqS Offline
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        Thanks for the link Thomas, here the link for my post....sorry for schrolling...it's on page 2..
        http://asgvis.com/smf/index.php?topic=4089.15
        Stinkie, yes, it's odd, but it's working.Check the link above.

        EDIT: the post it's about HDRI, but on page 2, almost at the bottom, I have some images about specular maps.

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        • stefanqS Offline
          stefanq
          last edited by

          OK, I did another test...just to be sure it's still working 😆
          I have a diffuse layer with the color, and another one ( ghost layer) witch it's transparent, for helping vray to set the correct UV for the specular map.

          http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9537/specular.th.jpg

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          • StinkieS Offline
            Stinkie
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            @thomthom said:

            Seems there's many ways to apply specular maps.
            I figured it'd be of interest to see the reply of one of the ASGVis employees.

            Yeah, that'd be nice.

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @unknownuser said:

              @thomthom said:

              Seems there's many ways to apply specular maps.
              I figured it'd be of interest to see the reply of one of the ASGVis employees.

              Yeah, that'd be nice.

              JoeB was that reply. 😉

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • StinkieS Offline
                Stinkie
                last edited by

                lol. Nevertheless I'd like to see, say, Damien Alomar elaborate on this issue. He usually does a good job explaining things.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  lol. Nevertheless I'd like to see, say, Damien Alomar elaborate on this issue. He usually does a good job explaining things.

                  Yup. His replies are valuable gems. I've been meaning to collect some of them into a tips/tricks post.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  • StinkieS Offline
                    Stinkie
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                    Whoa! Err ... dankie? Dankiewel? Whatever - thanks!

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                    • free agentF Offline
                      free agent
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                      hey i did a quick test after thomthom PM'd me on the matter, the thing about spec maps is u only notice them in shaded area where the light would hit them where they not in shadow.

                      raw render:

                      http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u143/FreeAgent84/test01.jpg

                      notice how the walls facing the camera get less reflection than the ones perpendicular to those, this is the fresnel effect, so a couple of things need to come togther in order to achieve this effect.

                      the refelction channel:

                      http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u143/FreeAgent84/test01reflection.jpg

                      tip: in photoshop overlay the reflection channel over the render and make the layer mode: SCREEN, this will increase the reflection of the raw render.

                      i attached the plaster vismat i made from a cgtextures image... and the model, so u can go through the material to see how its made. the spec map is placed under the fresnel image slot.


                      Plaster rough_1.zip


                      SPECMOD.rar

                      http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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                      • free agentF Offline
                        free agent
                        last edited by

                        haha dis 'n plesier.

                        http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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                        • ibonI Offline
                          ibon
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                          Guys, really, really Thanks

                          Freeagent, now with the scene on my hands everything's clear. Thanks everyone for taking so much time with this. I wish some day i will help you as you have helped me

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            Did a little test scene. Used an HDRI as I wanted to get a colour tint to the lighting. Too bad the Sun shadows are gone. (If I remember correctly, I can get them if I turn on default light and decrease the GI light while also adjusting the camera exposure.)


                            Render02.png

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                            • ibonI Offline
                              ibon
                              last edited by

                              Very beautiful scene thomthom. I have tried to make my own with an HDRI map but after more than 10 trial errors can't get the desired position for my sun. Is any easyer method to quickly position your hdri?

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                Hide all geometry, or do material override so it renders quickly and then do a few trial and errors of the HDRI horizontal position. Or you could do what Richard do; quite nice setup: http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18001&p=145253

                                Note that you won't have much luck if you try to adjust the vertical position of the SUN source from and HDRI. That will just mess things up.

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  nomeradona
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  lol. Nevertheless I'd like to see, say, Damien Alomar elaborate on this issue. He usually does a good job explaining things.
                                  yeap, whenever damien reply assurely my eyes are there...

                                  visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                    nomeradona
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                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Whoa! Err ... dankie? Dankiewel? Whatever - thanks!
                                    Oh thank God FA is here to give some explanation about this.
                                    hey stinkie are you saying FA is a donkey? lol.

                                    visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                      nomeradona
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                                      thats a cool linking render Thom

                                      visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
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                                        What I'd like to know is how to create a render with a tinted sun but with sun shadows as in the picture posted by the original poster. Anyone got some tips?

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                        • K Offline
                                          kwistenbiebel
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                                          @thomthom said:

                                          What I'd like to know is how to create a render with a tinted sun but with sun shadows as in the picture posted by the original poster. Anyone got some tips?

                                          That is where VrayforSU fails, as I stated before. Having a 'sun object' (an infinite light with a target) would be the solution, but considered impossible by Asgvis (why?). Cinema 4D's and Max's Vray versions both have the option to create a Vraysun.
                                          In that way you can control the HDR and sky settings in the environment tabs, while controlling the direct light/shadows by the sun object.

                                          In VfSU, all settings, including sun, need to be done by setting up the environment slots (GI,background, reflection, etc..)

                                          The only way I found to more or less fake a HDR/Sun/sky combo was the following:
                                          GI : use sky with 0.5 sun intensity
                                          Background: a bitmap with 30000 multiplier
                                          (optional : Reflection: a bitmap with a varying multiplier (10000 to...) to achieve the result you're after.)

                                          These are values that worked for me in VfSU 1.0 . It might be a different case for later versions.
                                          It's still difficult to get it right though....

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
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                                            I also don't understand why we can't have a Sun object. We have Omni and rectangular lights...
                                            So the problem stems from that we can control the VRay Sun and the VRay Sky separately?

                                            Maybe this is something we can ask for as a topic for the webseminars...

                                            @kwistenbiebel said:

                                            The only way I found to more or less fake a HDR/Sun/sky combo was the following:
                                            GI : use sky with 0.5 sun intensity
                                            Background: a bitmap with 30000 multiplier
                                            (optional : Reflection: a bitmap with a varying multiplier (10000 to...) to achieve the result your after.)

                                            Yea, this is what I've tried before. But I feel it's a hit and miss.

                                            I wonder; would an alternative method be to place a rectangular light in the Sun's position? How would you balance the GI HDRI light and the rectangular light?

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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