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    thomthom
    last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 11:09

    @box said:

    Working with geometry that is a network of loops and rings rather than a tangled web of triangles is so refreshing.

    I'm so happy to hear people say this. It also makes writing modelling tools and extensions easier if they can focus on dealing with quads.

    That being said - these GIFs you made box are really nice. Exactly the kind I want to create for the new QFT site.

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      ntxdave
      last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 14:49

      @thomthom said:

      @box said:

      Working with geometry that is a network of loops and rings rather than a tangled web of triangles is so refreshing.

      I'm so happy to hear people say this. It also makes writing modelling tools and extensions easier if they can focus on dealing with quads.

      That being said - these GIFs you made box are really nice. Exactly the kind I want to create for the new QFT site.

      Having been one of those who was trying to get a grip on the whole quad modeling approach/environment, Box's GIF's would be a great collection to start a set of tools on how, and why, to use quads more in your approach to 3D modeling. I have downloaded them all as "quick reference" guides. I only wish that there was a way to pause a GIF so that I could go back and see what was just done (like what was clicked) without having to watch the entire video.

      Challenge: Someone come up with a way to pause/play a GIF πŸ’š

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        thomthom
        last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 14:53

        @ntxdave said:

        Having been one of those who was trying to get a grip on the whole quad modeling approach/environment, Box's GIF's would be a great collection to start a set of tools on how, and why, to use quads more in your approach to 3D modeling. I have downloaded them all as "quick reference" guides.

        Yea - the quad-workflow was my main concern in releasing SUbD. Had this not been a spare-time project of mine I would have made sure to produce more content for QFT up front.

        Btw, have you had a look at the links on the Quad section of the SUbD website?

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          Box
          last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 14:59

          @ntxdave said:

          Challenge: Someone come up with a way to pause/play a GIF πŸ’š

          Record the gif with any of the multitude of screen recorders that save as video, the ones we used before the gif ones were available.

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            ntxdave
            last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 16:08

            @thomthom said:

            Btw, have you had a look at the links on the Quad section of the SUbD website?

            Yes, but I am going to look at it again. I have also been reading the Blender for Dummies book. While I am not Blender's biggest fan and the book does not really teach you to use the software very well. It is a very good background for understanding the whole Quad environment and learning some of the terminology related to the quad/mesh environment.

            I did finally do my first quad model yesterday. Unfortunately I did it before Box's gif's so it has several mistakes but at least I did one.

            Here it is:
            QFT-Glass.png
            Everyone has to start somewhere and then learn from your mistakes.

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              pilou
              last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 16:20

              @unknownuser said:

              Challenge: Someone come up with a way to pause/play a GIF

              Windows Media Player inside your Windows system
              can read these Gif with Stop button, Next, etc... πŸ˜‰
              Image following is just an image, not an animation!
              win_media.jpg

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              Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                thomthom
                last edited by 9 Feb 2016, 16:37

                Aye. Quad-based workflow has a steeper learning curve than your normal SketchUp workflows. However, the long-term benefits are great.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  Box
                  last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 05:19

                  Here's a little exercise to help people understand how a low poly proxy can become a complex structure.
                  As you see I simply made a basic child's stick figure as a series of connected blocks. Then gradually refine the shape by moving the blocks around. This helps you to retain a quad structure.
                  QFT lets you click to add or remove whole loops as you need them. As the level of detail increases you can refine the shape more and more while still having an easily navigable mesh to work with.


                  Proxy progression.gif

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 08:46

                    😎

                    http://www.mesnie.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/evolution.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                      Bob James
                      last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 09:05

                      @box said:

                      Each of the movements are me selecting vertices and moving them with the Vertex Gizmo just like in the ones earlier.

                      That's all I really needed to know. Thank you.

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                        Box
                        last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 14:13

                        I'm glad that helped Bob.

                        By the way, if anyone wants that proxy to play with and develop further let me know, I think I saved it and could attach it when I get home.

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                          Box
                          last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 16:08

                          Pilou I actually saved the file as Evolution with that in mind, but I prefer this image.


                          Monsanto.jpg

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                            olishea
                            last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 17:07

                            @box said:

                            I've added the proxy so you can make em as big as you want adjust them to fit.

                            πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„

                            oli

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                              rv1974
                              last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 18:30

                              Box how do you work with symmetrical geometry? Do you temporaly make mirrored low poly components or make all editing twice (from both sides simultaneously)?

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                                jo-ke
                                last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 20:12

                                @rv1974 said:

                                Box how do you work with symmetrical geometry? Do you temporaly make mirrored low poly components or make all editing twice (from both sides simultaneously)?

                                This is exactely the same question that I asked myself

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 10 Feb 2016, 21:45

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Box how do you work with symmetrical geometry?

                                  Maybe like this! The GIZMO of Vertex tools is incredible! πŸ˜‰
                                  (Left click Move + CTRL on the opposite Arrow)
                                  It has such combinaisons (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) than that is a program itself! 😎

                                  mirror.gif

                                  White background of the forum is not favourable for painting master pieces! πŸ’š
                                  petal.jpg

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                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    Box
                                    last edited by 11 Feb 2016, 02:28

                                    @jo-ke said:

                                    @rv1974 said:

                                    Box how do you work with symmetrical geometry? Do you temporaly make mirrored low poly components or make all editing twice (from both sides simultaneously)?

                                    This is exactely the same question that I asked myself

                                    Simple answer is 'all of the above'.
                                    Depends what I am doing and what shape I am heading for.
                                    Sometimes I select both sides as you get a better view when it all moves together,
                                    Sometimes I only work with half an object then just mirror it.
                                    Sometimes when working with a complete structure I'll work both sides simultaneously then gradually make them different.
                                    Quite often I will split a model in half and delete the bad side and replace it with the good.
                                    So I'd have to say I have no fixed method and I often do the same things differently the next time.
                                    It's worth mentioning that QFT and VT tools make it very easy to select and manipulate both sides at the same time.

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                                      Box
                                      last edited by 11 Feb 2016, 15:50

                                      Thomthom it's all your fault, I wander off to the pub with my tablet, I drink beer, I chat, I drink more beer, I doodle, I roughly render a few bits and pieces, I stagger home. While tucked up in bed 'she who must be obeyed' flicks through my doodles and now insists I must produce this hipbath in real life for her.
                                      A two beer doodle and a grainy render will drive me nuts for months.


                                      Hipbath02.jpg

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by 11 Feb 2016, 16:24

                                        YOu know what they say; never sketch and drink! πŸ˜„

                                        Seriously - that looks really nice. Looking forward to seeing the real thing! πŸ˜„

                                        (Oh, and can we peek at the wireframe and control-mesh?)

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          Box
                                          last edited by 12 Feb 2016, 02:45

                                          Sorry Thom I don't have the control mesh any more as I unsubed it when I wanted to get the profile to make the support.


                                          HipWires.gif

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