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    Dave R
    last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 13:10

    @numerobis said:

    Concerning the new license system... so it is possible to install v8 and 2015 side by side and i'm not loosing my v8 license, right?

    It's exactly the same as it's always been. You can have multiple versions installed and one license doesn't affect the other. They are entirely separate installations. And in case you haven't seen this before: Do not simply copy plugins from your old SU8 installation to SU2015. It's been repeat ad nauseum for most of the last year so you should have seen it by now.

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      Dave R
      last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 13:15

      @meanmrmustard85 said:

      Hi - Any advice on whether V-Ray 2.0 is compatible with 2015? Want to make sure before I upgrade and wipe out our rendering capability!

      Might be worth getting in touch with the V-ray people and get the information from the source.

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        Mike Amos
        last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 13:26

        The only downside I can see at the moment is that we now have 64 bit but I cannot think of a thing to do with it. No rendering for some time I reckon but at least I can get the modelling done in preparation. I just hope it is not too long for renders to begin.

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          numerobis
          last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 13:36

          @dave r said:

          It's exactly the same as it's always been. You can have multiple versions installed and one license doesn't affect the other. They are entirely separate installations.

          Thanks! πŸ˜„

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            Box
            last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 13:39

            @dave r said:

            @meanmrmustard85 said:

            Hi - Any advice on whether V-Ray 2.0 is compatible with 2015? Want to make sure before I upgrade and wipe out our rendering capability!

            Might be worth getting in touch with the V-ray people and get the information from the source.

            And as has been pointed out, you can run both side by side. Which means even if Vray doesn't yet work with 2015 you can still model in it and render in 2014.

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              olishea
              last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 14:38

              Congratulations SU team. This is a huge advancement for SketchUp. I was getting so frustrated with the software but now it's onwards and upwards I guess. πŸ˜„

              oli

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                bmike
                last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 14:59

                Guess you have to go get it 'manually'?

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                  juju
                  last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 15:12

                  @olishea said:

                  Congratulations SU team. This is a huge advancement for SketchUp. I was getting so frustrated with the software but now it's onwards and upwards I guess. πŸ˜„

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                    Frederik
                    last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 15:15

                    @bmike said:

                    Guess you have to go get it 'manually'?

                    Not sure you'll get a message from the "Update" as this is an "UpGrade"... πŸ˜„

                    Cheers
                    Kim Frederik

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                      Tyler Miller
                      last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 15:16

                      @bmike said:

                      Guess you have to go get it 'manually'?

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                      Yes, for the moment. We typically wait a day or two to make sure everything is running smoothly before turning on the update service in previous versions.

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                        meanmrmustard85
                        last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 16:56

                        @box said:

                        @dave r said:

                        @meanmrmustard85 said:

                        Hi - Any advice on whether V-Ray 2.0 is compatible with 2015? Want to make sure before I upgrade and wipe out our rendering capability!

                        Might be worth getting in touch with the V-ray people and get the information from the source.

                        And as has been pointed out, you can run both side by side. Which means even if Vray doesn't yet work with 2015 you can still model in it and render in 2014.

                        Thanks, that makes sense.

                        Spoke to Chaosgroup and they're working on a free update for release as soon as possible.

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                          numerobis
                          last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 17:53

                          @meanmrmustard85 said:

                          Hi - Any advice on whether V-Ray 2.0 is compatible with 2015? Want to make sure before I upgrade and wipe out our rendering capability!

                          I think it has to be recompiled to 64 bit. At least the Maxwell plugin needs an update...

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                            Al Hart
                            last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:42

                            The SketchUp description of 64 bit says: "The exception to this 32-bit status is that SketchUp for Windows has been built with an exception to allow 64-bit memory usage which allows SketchUp to use more than 4 Gb of RAM."

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                            DO you think the second use of the word exception is a mistake, or do you think SketchUp found a way to create a "pseudo" 64-bit - which uses more memory, but isn't really recompiled for 64 bits?

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                              driven
                              last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:57

                              @Al, if you read the prominent notice at the top of the page...
                              NOTICE: SketchUp 2015 is here! When you look at this Knowledge Center article, be sure to pick "SketchUp 2015" from the red box above to see the 2015 version of that content. If there is no version picker, this content applies to all versions of SketchUp.

                              I think you will find your looking at v2014...

                              john

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                                Krisidious
                                last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:57

                                Why would plugins need to be recompiled then? And that would mean Mac was not 64 bit at all?

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                                  AndrewS
                                  last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:57

                                  @al hart said:

                                  The SketchUp description of 64 bit says: "The exception to this 32-bit status is that SketchUp for Windows has been built with an exception to allow 64-bit memory usage which allows SketchUp to use more than 4 Gb of RAM."

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                                  DO you think the second use of the word exception is a mistake, or do you think SketchUp found a way to create a "pseudo" 64-bit - which uses more memory, but isn't really recompiled for 64 bits?

                                  You're looking at the wrong version of the article--for 2014 instead of 2015. Go back to that article and read the bright red warning at the top that tells you to use the dropdown menu to change to the 2015 article. Then you'll see what you'd expect.

                                  SketchUp 2015 x64 is absolutely, 100%, without a doubt, compiled for native 64-bit execution. The exception message was in regard to 2013 and 2014.

                                  Andrew

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                                    jiminy-billy-bob
                                    last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 21:59

                                    Al, you are looking at the 2014 version of the Knowledge Center. The sentence you quoted is refering to the 32bits versions of SU making use of the "large memory address" flag, which allow 32bits applications to use a bit more than 3GB of RAM on 64bits systems.

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                                      Al Hart
                                      last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 22:22

                                      @andrews said:

                                      You're looking at the wrong version of the article--for 2014 instead of 2015. Go back to that article and read the bright red warning at the top that tells you to use the dropdown menu to change to the 2015 article.

                                      Andrew

                                      Thanks Andrew - I had seen the warning - but still I assumed I was in the right place, since I had gotten there by clicking on the link in the SketchUp 2015 What's new article.

                                      Reading the proper page will be much more informative!

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                                        JonFar
                                        last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 22:48

                                        is it just me (and my pc) or there isnt any noticable improvement in UI navigation performance with heavier models?

                                        its faster to open and save, but i was hoping to be able to work on high poly models with a 64bit version, but the navigation speed seems the same as with 2014 32bit...

                                        nevertheless, im glad that sketchup is moving to 64bit πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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                                          Mra
                                          last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 22:49

                                          I think they forgot to test on a Quadro, it's really buggy with nVidia saying sketchup ran out of memory on a blank/fresh scene. Also dragging the window around results in very sluggish program. Hopefully nvidia updates their drivers.

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